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IGF 2016 First Open Consultations and MAG Meeting April 5

The following are the outputs of the real-time captioning taken during the First Open Consultations and Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) Meeting for IGF 2016 in Geneva, Switzerland, from 4 to 6 April 2016. Although it is largely accurate, in some cases it may be incomplete or inaccurate due to inaudible passages or transcription errors. It is posted as an aid to understanding the proceedings at the event, but should not be treated as an authoritative record.


5 April 2016

Geneva, Switzerland


 >>CHENGETAI MASANGO: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.  We're about to start the first day of the MAG meeting.  Yesterday was open consultations so today is the first day of the MAG meeting, and without further ado, I'll hand it over to the chair.  Lynn?

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Thank you.  Good morning.  And I really just want to thank everybody yesterday.  I thought it was a great meeting and a real kind of collaborative effort.  I think everybody is leaning into the task ahead, in recognition of the relatively short time frame we have.

 The first item of business is to approve the agenda, and I did go back and look at the agenda, talk to a few people.  I think we have time in what is now (c) and (d), MAG orientation discussion, role -- discussion on role and responsibilities of MAG and on the IGF MAG modalities, to cover the topic that was raised yesterday.

 And at the same time, I'd like to propose that we move that to the last two agenda items under Section 1, and it's just this terms of flow, which means we would start with some opening remarks from Wai-Min from UN DESA.  We would then move into the introduction of MAG members, incoming and outgoing, and then we'd move to 2015 and '16 IGF host remarks, and then move into the other meeting.

 The rest of the day is actually focused on first a -- sort of a shaping of the overall IGF program.  We'll get some more details from the host country with respect to the venue so that that will aid our planning and logistics.  And of course in that, we will cover intersessional activities, themes, and under intersessional activities of course I put all the national and regional IGF initiatives, best practice, dynamic coalition, and whatever we might decide to do for any additional intersessional work.

 So with that, I'd like to call for approval of the agenda.

 Call it approved.  Thank you.

 So the first opening remarks from Wai-Min from UNDESA.  You have the floor.

 >>WAI-MIN KWOK: Thank you, Madam Chair.

 Good morning, everyone.  Some short remarks which in a way also to reiterate the message from Mr. Wu, the under-secretary-general for economy and social affairs.  Great thanks and appreciation to all MAG members, including those outgoing who are still here with us today, incoming, and of course as what some of you have called as MAG alumni for all the past work that has been done and which had a very profound effect on the state of Internet governance today.

 Also, many thanks to Ambassador Janis Karklins for his leadership as the MAG chair over the past two years, and at the same time a very warm welcome to Lynn to accept this challenging task as the MAG chair.

 DESA and the U.N. attaches great importance to the open and inclusive process of the IGF and the MAG in the multistakeholder policy dialogue on Internet governance.  Collectively as one, we -- again, we strive to do more to ensure that the value of multistakeholder participation continues to be embraced and broadened, and in particular, to include those who have -- who are not yet privileged to join us in this important journey.  And collectively as one, we need to work harder to bring about greater roles of IGF and the Internet in driving and empowering the global agenda which is the substantive development agenda, to ensure no one is left behind.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Thank you, Wai-Min.  It's at this point in the agenda we move to an introduction of both the incoming and the outgoing MAG members, and to show that we really are serious about fully engaging our online participants -- and I recognize that this might come as a surprise to them, so we can come back to them later -- I'd actually like to ask them to go through and do their introductions first.

 And we will come back, Anja, at the end, in case some other folks join later.

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION: Thank you, Madam Chair.  I'm going to call the names as I'm seeing them in the list of the MAG members.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: And just -- Anja?


 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: I think what we'd really like is people to state their name, the organizations they're coming from, obviously the stakeholder community they're a part of, and I think sort of a brief -- brief -- sort of statement on their involvement to date with Internet governance activities.

 So I would like everybody to be as both complete and brief as possible because this portion of the agenda still takes up a fairly considerable time.  So thank you.

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION: Thank you.  Sorry.  

 First name on the list is Avri Doria.  Avri, I'm going to unmute you now.  You have the floor.

 >>AVRI DORIA: Hello, everybody.  My name is Avri Doria.  I'm second year in the MAG.  I come from a civil society appointment but I also consider myself very active in the technical community.  I've been involved since WSIS, was a member of the WGIG, and was once a member of the IGF secretariat in its first five years, and I'm very active in organizations like the IETF, IRTF, ICANN, and various civil society organizations.  And I'm a research consultant and independent.  Thank you.

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION: Douglas is next.  Douglas, you have the floor.

 I guess we'll have to come back to this name.  Douglas, we can't hear you now.

 Virginia Paque, you have the floor.

 >>VIRGINIA PAQUE: Good morning.  I'm a civil society stakeholder.  I work for DiploFoundation and also work with a civil society coordination group for selection of civil society representatives, as much as we can represent part of civil society in Internet governance processes.  

 Within the IGF, I'm particularly interested in improving remote participation possibilities and multilingualism opportunities for greater inclusion.  Thank you.

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION: Thank you very much.  

 Jac, you have the floor.

 >>JAC SM KEE: Thank you.  Hopefully you can hear me.  Hi.  This is Jac, Jac sm Kee.  I'm based in Malaysia.  I am with -- representing civil society (indiscernible) Association of Progressive Communications.  Also my second year on MAG.

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION: Thank you very much.  Shita.

 >>SHITA LAKSMI: Thank you, everyone.  Can you hear me?

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION: Yes, we can hear you.

 >>SHITA LAKSMI: Okay.  My name is Shita Laksmi.  I'm a second-year MAG member and come from Indonesia representing civil society.  I was one of the co-organizers for Internet Governance Forum in 2013 and I'm still very active in the regional Internet Governance Forum and also in charge for the Southeast Asia for Internet Governance at Hivos regional office of Southeast Asia.  Thank you.

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION: Thank you very much.  Ahmed Sabir, you have the floor.

 >>AHMED SABIR: Hi.  My name is Ahmed Sabir.  I'm a new MAG member from the technical community and I'm from Bangladesh and I'm almost 20 years in the domain industry, and back home my job (indiscernible).  As a civil society person, I'm also serving as the co-chair for (indiscernible), and I'm very much involved with the national and the regional laws and also with the (indiscernible) and ISOC local community (indiscernible) community, and I think it's an opportunity for me to share (indiscernible) region to IGF, especially the technical part of it, and (indiscernible) experience for me.  I hope I can contribute however possible in the MAG community.  Thank you very much.

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION: Thank you very much.  

 And Towela, you have the floor now.

 >>TOWELA JERE: Good morning, everyone.  Can you hear me?

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION: We can hear you.

 >>TOWELA JERE: Okay.  My name is Towela Jere.  I work with the NEPAD agency in Africa and I'm involved with the Africa Internet Governance Forum and it's probably my last year as a MAG member.  Thank you.

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION: Thank you very much.  I'm seeing Renata has joined us.  

 Renata, if you can speak now, I will unmute you.

 >>RENATA AQUINO RIBEIRO: Good morning, everyone.  This is Renata from Brazil.  Nice to be here with you all.

 >>ANJA GENGO:  Thank you very much.  

 Towela, you have the floor now.

 >>TOWELA JERE:  Good morning, everyone.  Can you hear me?

 >>ANJA GENGO:  We can hear you.

 >>TOWELA JERE:  Okay.  My name is Towela Jere.  (indiscernible).  I am involved with the African (indiscernible) Forum, and it's my last year as a MAG member.  Thank you.

 >>ANJA GENGO:  Thank you very much.  

 Seeing Renata has joined us, Renata, if you can speak now, I will unmute you.

 >>RENATA AQUINO RIBEIRO:  Good morning, everyone.  This is Renata Aquino Ribeiro.  (indiscernible).  I am a new MAG member from civil society.

 >>ANJA GENGO:  Thank you.  Madam Chair, if you allow, I will read the introduction on behalf of Douglas Onyango as he doesn't have audio.  

 I'm Douglas Onyango.  I'm glad to be joining the MAG as a new member representing the technical community.  I have been involved with planning national and regional IGFs in East Africa.  I'm a member of ISOC Uganda and a member of ICANN ASO AC.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR:  Thank you, Anja.  And thank you again to everybody who's participating online.  Again, it's not the easiest way to participate in these meetings.  

 And, Anja, we'll come back at the very end, too, and check and see if anybody else has joined in the interim.

 So now I think the easiest thing is to just go left to right, unless we want to move from right to left in recognition of mixing things up a little bit here.  And just ask both incoming, current and -- I see one or two outgoing members still in the room as well.  I would ask them to encourage them to introduce themselves as well.  They're obviously still engaged.  We would like to keep their engagement.  And they're just a great source for mentorship and support for any of the incoming members.  And I think we need to utilize all the resources we can in this effort.

 So I'm not going to call on people.  I'll just sort of sweep left to right and let people start.  


 >>SLOBODAN MARKOVIC:  Good morning.  My name is Slobodan Markovic.  I work at the Serbian ccTLD registry.  And I'm a current MAG member, my second year.  I've been a long time engaged in Internet governance issues starting with ICANN, I think, back in 2001.  And I have been engaged in a lot of different initiatives, wearing a lot of different hats.  Among other stuff, I was -- I work for Serbian government between 2008 and 2012 as a policy advisor for the minister.  So that would be a few words from me in short.

 >> SALANIETA TAMANIKAIWAIMARO:  Good morning, everybody.  My name is Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro.  But you can call me Sala for short because my name is really long.

 [ Laughter ]

 And I wear several hats.  But just to -- just to say that my journey in civil society started when I was little girl, journeying with Red Cross.  

 But as far as Internet governance is concerned, my first IGF conference was in Lithuania, Vilnius.  

 And how I got into Internet governance was through a capacity-building program that DiploFoundation ran, and that was the beginning of my addiction.  Ever since then, even though I was part of the ICT ecosystem within the Pacific, I never really knew much about Pacific -- about Internet governance until then.

 I currently serve as President of the South Pacific Computer Society, and I'm also an executive council member of the Southeast Asia Regional Computer Confederation.  So I'm trying to get all the computer societies from around southeast Asia to join the APrIGF and that sort of thing.

 I'm also a member of two accredited at-large organizations; namely, the South Pacific Computer Society as well as the Pacific chapter of The Internet Society called PICISOC.  I'm also founder of Pasifika NEXUS, which is a thing I do for fun, largely a think tank in the my region.

 In my other hat, I worked in the university as well.  I didn't put it in my biography for the simple reason that I will be tendering my resignation within the next month.  But essentially the University which I work in also happens to be a country code top level domain manager for .FJ.  

 Having said that, in that particular hat, I also look after the Japan Pacific ICT Center which serves as an ICT hub within the Pacific region.  And I also happen to be the World Summit -- I mean, I'm involved in the World Summit Awards Mobile Expert Program where we sort of filter and select mobile apps and channel it through the process.  

 I also serve on the advisory council of BrightPath Foundation.  

 In a previous-previous hat, I was privileged to serve as co-coordinator of the civil society Internet Governance Caucus.  And on the ground in Fiji from time to time when my government needs me to advise them on any matters pertaining to Internet governance but more fundamentally in relation to subsecurity (indiscernible).  And that is my short...

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR:  Thank you, Sala.  

 Let me go to Miguel first.  I went to the far right.  Me get?

 >>MIGUEL IGNACIO ESTRADA: Good morning, everyone.  Since I didn't speak yesterday, congratulations to you.  And I would also like to thank Mexico and Brazil.  I couldn't attend -- attend remotely.

 My name is Miguel Ignacio Estrada.  I'm from Argentina.  I work for government in the (indiscernible) ministry.  This is my first year on the MAG.  I've been an ICANN fellow since, I don't know, 2013, I think.  Right now I'm involved in ICANN LAC strategy, in the communications part of the strategy.

 I was a communications manager for .AR for four years.  And I'm also the secretariat leader for Argentina IGF.  

 I hope I can help here.  Thank you.

 >>WANAWIT AKHUPUTRA:  Good morning.  My name is Wanawit Akhuputra from Thailand.  I am participating in IGF since Bali and Istanbul.  I've been speaking in the session in Joao Pessoa on universal access.  This year we also running the G77 ICT expert meeting on the ICT on SDG in Thailand just two months ago.

 I'm deputy executive director of Electronic Transactions Development Agency and data ministry of ICT, so definitely I'm representing government.  And I also the vice chair in the GAC in ICANN as well.  

 And this year just been appointed as a chair for electric commerce of the regional economic comprehensive initiative programs.  So I spend most of the time on the plane in Laos somewhere.  So after this, I have to go to Perth and two weeks I have to come back here again.  

 So I do hope that I could contribute something, also incoming for 2016.  And thank you.

 >> WISDOM DONKOR:  Good morning.  My name is Wisdom from Ghana.  I work with the national I.T. agency.  It's a government agency.  I've been an ICANN fellow since 2013, and I've been a co-chair three times.  

 My focus here is Internet governance and open data.  I'm looking at this to see how we can try to use these two companies to empower citizens through job creation.  So that is my focus area when it comes to Internet governance and open data.  Thank you.

 >>AIDA MAHMUTOVIC:  Good morning, everyone.  My name is Aida Mahmutovic.  This is my second year in MAG.  I come from a civil society stakeholder group.  I'm a Diplo alumni as well as ICANN fellow.  Now I am in the working group of rights protection mechanisms in all gTLDs PDP.  

 I'm involved with national IGF, SEEDIG, Southeast European Dialogue on Internet Governance, and regional Internet forum.  And I'm very much focused also on gender equality.  Thank you.

 >>ILIYA BAZLYANKOV: Good morning, everyone.  My name is Iliya Bazlyankov.  I come from the private sector in Bulgaria.  It is my first year in the MAG.  My involvement with IGF issues is since 2012 when I organized in Bulgaria a small multistakeholder discussion regarding the Internet issues.  Then some years later, I was the local host of ICANN's Studienkreis meeting in Sofia.  And last year I got involved in EuroDIG as local host and as well in SEEDIG in the regional meeting.

 I'm also involved with ICANN since many years.  Since 2007.  I've attended many meetings and I participate in more than 12 working groups.  Thank you.

 >>ELIZABETH THOMAS RAYNAUD: Good morning, everyone.  My name is Elizabeth Thomas Raynaud and I come from the International Chamber of Commerce, which is a large organization, a world business organization, which represents the private sector from across 120 countries.

 We -- I have two roles at ICC.  We develop policy positions that we promote at an intergovernmental level and then work through our national committees in 90 countries to promote across local and regional governments.

 So one of my roles is developing the policy work with commission experts from companies all over the world on digital economy issues.  And then my other role is as project director of the Business Action to Support the Information Society Initiative, and this is an initiative that the private sector asked ICC to put forward following the WSIS -- the first two WSIS summits, as ICC had been convening the private sector voice through that process and felt it was really important for the private sector to continue its commitment to multistakeholder engagement with an active and engaged voice and cooperation.

 So I have taken on the role that I've got now, about a year and a half ago.  However, I have experience working on this team with my brilliant predecessor, right from the get-go, from the first IGF in Athens, and according to when I had children, I attended other IGFs along the way.

 So I'm very delighted now to find myself here, able to contribute alongside all of you, and thank you for that opportunity.

 >>VIRAT BHATIA: Good morning.  I'm Virat Bhatia.  I'll make it totally short.  When I was in class, second.  I'm just kidding.

 [ Laughter ]

 >>VIRAT BHATIA: So I represent the business community.  I've attended every IGF either in person or remotely since Hyderabad, so that's 2008.  I've been very fortunate to be part of the community.  I've attended several -- not all -- of the ICANN meetings.  I represent the largest ICT industry association from India, which is FICCI.  I chaired the committee, which has about 150 members consisting of both Indian multinationals, equipment service providers, Internet companies, lawyers, professionals, everybody.  

 I work for AT&T and look out for the policy portfolio for south Asia, as well as represent the company in some of the international fora, and the last three years have been -- before this, spoke at many sessions and worked with very -- many different colleagues, but the last two years, since this is my third year as a MAG, helped organize several main sessions, contributed to the intersessional work, just basically trying to move the agenda on a day-to-day basis for the IGF.  Thanks.

 >>CHERYL MILLER: Good morning.  That will go away?  Okay.  Go away.  Sorry.  Good morning.  My name is Cheryl Miller.  I'm the director of International Public Policy and Regulatory Affairs for Verizon.  Like many of you, I also wear a few other hats.  I'm also a co-chair for ISOC's Organization Members Advisory Council, very active with ICANN's business constituency, and also an ICC/BASIS (indiscernible).

 In addition to my business background, I've been -- I'm here on behalf of business, and my past stints have included several positions within the U.S. government and I also taught (indiscernible) at the George Washington University intellectual property program.

 I just want to say I'm really inspired by the -- all the talent, both on line and in the room, and I'm really looking forward to working with all of you in making 2016 an amazing year and definitely looking forward to going to Mexico.  Thank you.

 >>MICHAEL NELSON: I'm Mike Nelson.  I, like Cheryl, have several different stakeholder hats.  I've spent 10 years in the U.S. government working with Senator Gore and Vice President Gore.  I also spent 10 years teaching at Georgetown, and continue to do some of that in my spare time, and I'm here on behalf of CloudFlare, but before that worked for Microsoft and IBM.

 I provide a little bit of institutional memory, since I've been working on Internet policy since 1988 when I worked with Senator Gore to write a little bill that had two sentences that said, "Normal people can use the Internet too."  Took us three years to get that passed, but I've been working to make sure the Internet grows quickly and provides a better, more secure place for people to innovate and I'm very glad to be here in my third year on the MAG.

 >>IZUMI OKUTANI: Izumi Okutani.  I am a policy liaison in JPNIC.  I have been working for over 15 years in the number resource community, collaborating with each of the regional registries around the world.  I am also active in the ICANN community on -- especially recently on enhancing ICANN's accountability, so I'm a member of a working group representing the number -- the ASO, the number community, and this is considered as a set together with the IANA stewardship transition.

 I am also serving as the chair of a team, the CRISP team, which have submitted the proposal on the number resources component of the IANA stewardship transition.

 So these are the -- some of the key areas, but there are other things that I do within the Japanese community on raising awareness around the Internet governance issues, work closely with the IGF -- the national IGF equivalent, and work closely with network operators group within Japan such as JANOG.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: We'll go to Marilyn and Omar and then come back to the middle of the room.

 >>MARILYN CADE: Thank you.  My name is Marilyn Cade.  I am from the business community.  I have probably the most appropriate background for being involved in high-tech since I started my professional career as a child abuse and neglect social worker and then converted to the ICT sector.  

 I -- when I first became involved in the Internet, there were only 4 million users, and like Mike, I worked in the very, very early days in helping to engage the private sector in understanding about the phenomena that the Internet could be.

 I've been involved, like many others here, in both phases of the WSIS and was present and helped to contribute to the negotiation of the Tunis Agenda, in particular the elements that are so relevant to us in the Internet Governance Forum.

 When we first became involved in the Internet, there was much stronger collaboration with governments and with the civil society and NGOs, and then we went through a period of time where that did not exist, and I think the IGF is the embodiment of returning to an inclusive engagement, and listening to the backgrounds of everyone here is very inspiring.  

 I did help to coordinate the private sector and NGO collaboration that led to the creation of ICANN.  I helped to host and organize the North American version of the international forum on the white paper, in working with CIX, a Commercial Internet Exchange predecessor that is no longer active but was very instrumental in the early days and worked with many of the technical community that helped to launch Internet initiatives in other countries.

 I'm the past chair of the business constituency.  I continue to be very active there.  I'm a member, on behalf of the business constituency, of the ICANN cross-community working group on Internet governance.  I was a participant in the cross-community working group on accountability.  I've attended every one of the consultations, the open consultations, that the IGF has held, including the early days when the MAG meetings were all closed, but always attended the consultations.  

 And I say that because this is my third year on the MAG but I hope that all of us really are going to continue to think that we contribute before we come to be appointed to the MAG and long after.

 I acted as the chief catalyst, with others, to launch the IGF USA in 2009 and continue to be an active member there.

 I'm a member of the IGF Support Association executive committee, along with some of the other folks who are here.

 I'm also a board member of a new initiative called WAVE, the Women's Alliance for Virtual Exchange, which focuses on addressing the challenging issues of access for women and girls in regions that have cultural and social barriers in a number of countries.

 I've been very actively involved in the Commission on Science and Technology for Development, having attended meetings there since 2004 when I previously worked for a global ICT communications company before I left to found mCADE llc, that I participate as now, and I was one of the business representatives at the CSTD Working Group on Improvements to the IGF and the first enhanced cooperation working group.

 >>OMAR MANSOOR ANSARI: Good morning.  My name is Omar Mansoor Ansari.  I'm from Afghanistan.  I'm presiding over TechNation, which is a technology and management company based in Kabul.  We engage in creating technology, helping startups, doing community tech, and also some policy and regulatory activities advisement.

 My company's a member of the ICANN business constituency and it's a member of the IGF Support Association.  

 I'm sitting on the board of directors of World I.T. and Services Alliance, WITSA, and I'm chairing the national ICT alliance of Afghanistan.  

 I first started working in the ICT sector.  That's where my professional journey starts with.  That was in 1999 when I cofounded the Afghan Computer Science Association and tried to engage with the Afghan technical communities from across the globe.  That was a time when Afghanistan was ruled by the Taliban.  We didn't have many people in the field, but we tried to work with the Afghan diaspora in other countries who were doing the computer sciences and technology education.  

 I first participated in 2003, the WSIS in Geneva, and then participated in a WSIS forum in 2005 and then 2012 and 2013.

 My first IGF was 2012 in Baku and then Bali in 2013, and the last one in Joao Pessoa.

 Okay.  And I'm also working with Marilyn on a couple of things that are in formation.  

 One is the national Afghanistan IGF and the second one is the regional IGF for central Asia.  And we are also working on the ISOC Afghanistan chapter, which is formation.  That are like in the final stages.  We're just waiting for a final approval by the HQ.  Thank you.

 And I'm private sector.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Thank you, Omar.  Hossam, we're coming back now.

 >>HOSSAM ELGAMAL: Okay.  In brief, my name is Hossam Elgamal.  I'm a private sector representative.  I'm a partner in several companies in Egypt.  At the same time, I am a board member of Africa ICT Alliance.  It's a business association for Africa representing more than 20 countries.  And I used to be the vice chairman of the largest ICT association in Egypt.  Along with that, I have some other hats, so currently I have an assignment with the Egyptian government as well, and I have been doing some NGO activities for the last 25 years.  Thank you.

 >>MOURAD BOUKADOUM: Good morning to all.  Hi.  I'm Mourad Boukadoum from government.  I'm Deputy Director in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in charge of issues related to planning and foreign policy.  I've been a member of the MAG since 2014 so I am in my third term.

 Previously I was based here in Geneva for five years at the permanent mission and I have been involved in IG issues since 2009.  Looking forward to interact with fellow MAG members and the overall Internet community.  Thank you.  Nigeria.

 >>ZEINA BOU HARB: Good morning.  My name is Zeina Bou Harb.  I represent the Ministry of Telecom, the government sector, in the MAG.  I have a small, let's say, experience in the IGF.  It started with the -- last year with the preparation of the Arab IGF which was held in Beirut in December 2015.  I was a member of the -- of many subcommittees working on the preparations of the themes discussed and following on the coordination with the umbrella organization, ESCWA, and League of Arab States, for the -- for this IGF.

 Currently, I'm working with the government, with my ministry also on the preparation of the -- on drafting the laws regarding the domain names administration and the electronic transaction.

 I have experience in regulation, drafting regulation, and I follow on the issues related also to consumer protection, to ICT projects, and I was the head of commercial affairs for the third mobile operator, which was being established in Lebanon.  And I'm looking forward to work with you all for the IGF.  Thank you.

 >>JULIAN CASASBUENAS: Thank you.  Good morning.  I'm Julian Casasbuenas and I'm very pleased to be a new MAG member from civil society and to have the opportunity to work with all of you.

 I'm the director of Colnodo, a not-for-profit organization based in Colombia since 1993 working in ICTs for development.  Colnodo is an Association for Progressive Communications -- APC -- member, and I'm currently the chair of the board of the APC.

 I have been involved in the IGF process in 2006 when I participated in the first IGF in Athens, and since then, I was able to attend to six global IGFs, mainly participating on issues relating to access and diversity, Internet rights, and net neutrality.

 In two opportunities, I participated as well as Internet Society ambassador for the IGF, and I was Diplo alumni for a couple of times.

 From the APC, I was involved in the organization of Latin American IGF meetings and participated actively as reporter and speaker in these events, and in 2012 my organization was co-organizer of the fifth IGF Latin American meeting that was held in Bogota.

 Currently I am involved in the local IGF Colombian initiative, and I had the opportunity to present our results of the discussions we had in the local IGF related to Internet to reduce poverty and connecting the next billion during the interregional dialogue session at the IGF in Joao Pessoa.

 I think this was the first time that I participate on a space where we had the opportunity to share and present directly in the global IGF the results of the national discussions.  In our case related to connectivity issues, ICT policies, aspects where the cooperation of the multistakeholder approach is required, and proposals of future actions in the multistakeholder dialogue.

 I believe that it is necessary to keep and strengthen these spaces on the global IGF to ensure that the national and regional priorities are reflected in the global agenda of the IGF.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Thank you, Julian.  Juan?

 >>JUAN FERNANDEZ: Well, my name -- my full name is Juan Alfonso Fernandez Gonzalez.  Juan and Alfonso are given names, Fernandez my father's last name, and Gonzalez my mother's last name.  As you know, in Latin countries, we use both surnames, you know, from father and mother.  It's not that the rest of the world doesn't remember the mothers, but -- well, that's our tradition.

 [ Laughter ]

 >>JUAN FERNANDEZ: But you can call me just "Juan."

 I'm a physicist but I've been working with computers since those things were bigger than refrigerators and took a whole room, so when the personal computer arrived -- even before that, when smaller computers came from Asia, from Japan, I and a group of Cubans started working with all that.

 Maybe you don't know but even before that, in Cuba we design a minicomputer totally Cuban from the ground up with its own operating system and own language.  It was similar to the PDP-10.  You can see that in history books.

 So we have development in that since the early stages.

 I began being involved in networks internally, and in those days, I don't know if you remember when Internet began to be -- become international.  At the beginning, it was called electronic commerce.  The first international organization to take interest in that was the World Trade Organization.  In 1997, 1996, 1998, they began to try to create an environment for what they called the global eCommerce and those words, and I was involved in that.

 Then the eCommerce was handled in UNCTAD -- do you remember -- by Bruno Lanvin. He's the husband of Anne Miroux.  She is one of the specialists, very senior specialists in UNCTAD in those days.

 Then ITU took electronic commerce -- it had a program that was called ECDC, electronic commerce for developing countries.  I was also involved there.  

 Then came the World -- no, the United Nations ICT Task Force that was created in 2001.  I was involved in the United Nations ICT task force.  Then came the first phase of the WSIS.  I became involved in that.  Then it came before the first phase and the second phase.  

 Do you remember Internet governance was not a great anything?  So the WGIG was created, the working group on Internet governance.  I was involved in that as well.  

 Then came the second phase of the WSIS, the ICT Task Force final mandate.  So the global alliance for ICT and development was created.  I was involved in that as well.  

 And then time has passed on and of the things that were agreed in Tunisia, do you remember related Internet governance was two tracks?  The IGF and the enhanced cooperation.  The IGF is here.  Enhanced cooperation is a group that's going to be created to ten years after keep doing that.  I'm supposed to be involved in that as well.  

 And IGF, it's going.  I think that -- IGF is not perfect but it's good enough.  I'm here to try to make it better.  That's it.

 I think I mentioned I'm from Cuba.

 [ Laughter ]

 I mentioned I'm from Cuba, from the government, ministry of communications.

 >>RAFAEL PEREZ GALINDO:  Good morning.  My name Rafael Galindo.  I work for the Spanish government in the secretariat for telecommunications and Information Society.  I have been involved in Internet governance issues since 2010, mainly in the GAC of ICANN, the cross-constituency group on ICANN accountability, in Spanish and global IGFs.  And I am very glad to be here and have the opportunity to contribute to this wonderful multistakeholder group.  Thank you.

 >>JUUSO MOISANDER:  Hello.  My name is Juuso Moisander.  I'm a second-year MAG member.  I work for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Finland.  I am the desk officer for WSIS follow-up and Internet governance.  

 I have been attending all IGFs since Hyderabad, and I think I have only missed only one or two MAG meetings since then as well.  I have been following the MAG for roughly seven years.  

 I have a background in trade policy, and I'm very interested in questions related to digital economy.  And I'm also the chair of the Finnish National IGF.

 Thank you.

 >>XIAODONG LEE:  I'm Xiaodong Lee.  First of all, congratulations to Madam Lynn to take the position for chair to improve the success of multistakeholder and continuing the multistakeholder process.  And also congratulations on IGF to go to the next ten years.

 I'm sorry.  I'm Xiaodong Lee.  I'm a renewed MAG member, served my three years in MAG.  I'm from the technical community.  But I'm listed as a private sector this time.  Maybe I look like the businessman when I dress in my suit.

 [ Laughter ]

 I'm just kidding.  I have told the secretary to correct that.

 So I'm the research professor of Chinese Academy of Science and also the CEO of the National Engineering Lab of Naming and Addressing Technologies, leading search and development that the end product including software and hardware product are improved against infrastructure of the world.

 And I'm also the CEO of CNNIC, which is the registry for .CN, .CHINA.  We achieve to be the largest ccTLD in the world and also largest Chinese IDN TLD in the world.  Now, we have over 18.7 million .CN registrations.

 I'm also the VP and board member of the Internet Society of China, including the member of the (indiscernible) and also some members from academia area and industry.

 I think somebody know I used to the VP of Asia for ICANN since 2011 to 2013.

 I think in the past few years I am active in IETF, ICANN, ISOC.  I'm a former member of the working group chair of email address internationalization of IETF.  And also I'm a member of the ICANN SSAC and also ICG.  And I'm working together with Madam Chair and also Hartmut in ICG.  It's a very nice memory.  Good luck for the next step for the U.S. government.

 I'm very happy to renew my membership in MAG to continue to work together with MAG members and also to contribute my knowledge.  Thank you.

 >>ARNOLD van RHIJN:  Good morning to you all.  My name is Arnold van Rhijn.  I work for the Netherlands government at the Ministry of Economic Affairs, Telecommunications Market Directory.  

 I'm involved in Internet governance since 2012.  Among other duties, I also coordinate the national Dutch IGF.  I'm a new MAG member.  And I would have stayed longer in Geneva, but unfortunately I have to leave at the end of today as I have other responsibilities to fulfill in the context of the E.U. presidency, which my country currently holds until the 1st of July.

 More information about my professional experience can be found on the IGF's Web site.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR:  I think I see Ana back there as well.

 >>CHENGETAI MASANGO:  She is not a MAG member.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR:  Ana, we had actually asked if outgoing MAG members would just briefly introduce themselves as well because the fact that you're here shows your continued interest in the IGF and you're a resource and could perhaps help support some of the incoming MAG members as well.

 >> ANA NEVES:  Okay.  Thank you.  So I'm covering MAG since 2008.  So my first IGF, it was in 2008.  And since then, I'm covering all these issues, ICANN, IGF, you name it.

 So I was covering the open consultations and when the MAG was started to be open, I started to be -- I started to participate in the MAG meetings.  And eventually I become a member of the MAG.

 So what can I say?  It was very, very interesting.  I think that now we are in a different layer that we were in the last three years.  So if I would be of any interest with my experience, it would be great.  But I think that these new members of the MAG -- well, I must say that it's very promising.  So I'm here to help.  But good luck.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR:  Thank you.  We'll come back to you, Cristina.  We'll come back to the intergovernmental organizations and their special role at the end.

 >> ALEJANDRA ERRAMUSPE:  Good morning, everybody.  I'm Alejandra Erramuspe from Uruguay.  I would like to say thank you for your warm welcome to the MAG.  It's my first time here.  And congratulate you as the new Chair.

 I'm very pleased to participate in the MAG.  I represent the government of Uruguay.  I work at the agency of eGovernment and information society at the office of the President (saying name).

 I also -- I represent Uruguay in the steering committee of LAC IGF since 2014.  I also am representative of the government in the GAC, in ICANN.  

 I would like to tell you THAT the following month on the 17th of May in Uruguay will take place the first local IGF.  We are very excited.  In July, we are going to have our regional IGF, LAC IGF.  In these days we are deciding which country will be the host country.

 We still have a lot of work to do here, the IGF having (indiscernible) since the beginning but as we are discussing these days a lot of work to do -- a lot of things waiting to improve.

 I hope we can work all together to enhance the multistakeholder participation.  I think we have a lot of work to do.  I trust we can do it.  Thank you.

 >> SUSAN CHALMERS:  Good morning, everyone.  My name is Susan Chalmers, and I'm an outgoing MAG member.  I had the honor of participating in the organization of the Bali, Istanbul, and Joao Pessoa meetings.  Most of my work, when I was on the MAG, focused on the workshop selection and evaluation process.  So I can be a resource there, if people have any questions.

 My first IGF was in Nairobi in 2011.  I was -- and then I joined the MAG two years later.  I was appointed by the technical community.  I have since joined the Office of International Affairs at the NTIA, the U.S. Department of Commerce.

 Best of luck to everybody this year.

 >> LIESYL FRANZ:  Good morning.  My name is Liesyl Franz.  I'm with the U.S. Department of State, and I'm a new incoming MAG member.  Happy to be here with all of you.  I started my work in Internet governance by coming -- the first IGF I went to was in Rio, so I have only missed one.  And I have been to many of the MAG and open consultation meetings.  

 I've worked with many of you and many of my colleagues not only at the Department of State where I joined 3 1/2 years ago; but prior to that, I worked for Tech America which was a trade association representing high-tech companies.  And I often worked with them in organizing workshops for IGFs, not only for workshops but also working with many of you on organizing some of the main sessions and other work during the preparatory meetings.

 So while I may be a new MAG member, I'm hopefully not new to the community.

 Thank you all.  And I look forward to working with you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR:  I think we'll come back to the Brazil -- well, we have Flavio as the current MAG member.  And then, Brazil, you could also have a second shot at this at the very end as an outgoing -- the host countries always have a special place in the mag.

 >>FLAVIO WAGNER:  Good morning, everybody.  My name is Flavio Wagner from Brazil.  I represent the technical community here in the MAG in my second year.  I have a background on electrical engineering and computer science.  And I am a professor for computer science and engineering at the University of Rio Grande do Sul in Brazil for almost four decades now.  

 Since 2011 I'm the director of the science and technology park at the university, which among many other things also supports startups in the I.T. area.

 I have been president of the Brazilian computer society in two terms and held various other positions in its board.  I am a member of the board of CGI.BR, the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee since 2008 representing the scientific committee.  And I am now in my third three-year term in the board.

 So I have been involved in many national, international Internet governance activities mainly since 2008 such as, for instance, the Brazilian IGF which CGI.BR organize since 2011.  

 I have also been a member of the executive multistakeholder committee of NETmundial, which was really a wonderful experience of a true multistakeholder process.  So thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR:  Thank you.

 German, can I ask you to do a brief introduction?

 >>GERMAN VALDEZ:  My name is German Valdez.  This is my second year as a MAG member, and I'm part of the technical community.  

 I have been part of the technical community since 1998.  I have performed different positions in the domain name industry and with the regional Internet registries.  

 My current role is the executive secretary for the NRO, which is comprised of the five regional Internet registries.  And the role of the NRO is to push the global agenda of the RIRs.  And I have been involved in IGF since inception, since the first meeting.  Thank you very much.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR:  Now we're going back across the room here.  And this is where it gets a little bit difficult in terms of the ability to see people.  I actually see Rasha there.  I think you are the next.

 >> RASHA ABDULLA:  Good morning, my name is Rasha Abdulla.  I'm an associate professor of journalism and mass communication at the American University in Cairo.  

 This is my first MAG meeting.  I'm very excited to be here.  Very new experience for me.  I come at this mostly from an academic background.  I have been interested in Internet policy since, well, the last '80s, actually before it was officially called the Internet.  And I was a student at the time.  But I have been in that line of research almost for my entire career.  I think my Ph.D. dissertation was the first large-scale academic study of Internet use in Egypt.  That was back in the early 2000s.  I have since authored three books on the Internet in the Arab world and several technical reports including mapping the digital report for Egypt.  

 I have spoken at numerous conferences on this, of course.  I am here representing civil society, which I have become heavily engaged in since 2011, since the Egyptian revolution.  So I'm looking forward to working with all of you.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR:  I think the next would be Mark Carvell as an outgoing member.  And then I think, Segun, we will come to you after.

 >>MARK CARVELL:  Thank you, Chair.  And good morning, everybody.  My name is Mark Carvell.  I represent United Kingdom government.  My ministry is the Department for Culture, Media, and Sport.  I'm an outgoing MAG member.  I have been involved in Internet governance policy since 2008.  I have attended every IGF since then and have been on the MAG for three years.  So I'm coming off now.

 I'm a member of the U.K. IGF's steering committee.  I represent the U.K. government at the Council of Europe in Strasbourg.  That's 47 member states.  We've just agreed on Internet governance strategy for the next four years, which includes support for multistakeholder processes.

 I also advise the commonwealth institutions on Internet governance policy; in particular, the commonwealth telecommunications organization which is relaunching the Commonwealth Internet Governance Forum.  So watch this space.  

 And I'd be very pleased to continue to be a link to the commonwealth membership on IGF matters for the MAG and for promoting participation by stakeholder communities in all commonwealth member states in the IGF in years ahead.

 So best of luck to the new membership at the MAG and to you, Lynn, for taking over the chairing.  Look forward to the outcome of these preparatory meetings and helping in any way I can.  Thank you very much.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR:  Thank you.  And thank you for your very generous offer to continue to support the MAG as well.


 >>SEGUN OLUGBILE:  Good morning, everybody.  My name is Segun Olugbile.  I'm from Nigeria.  This is my second year on the MAG.  I actually represent the business community under the (indiscernible) of AfICTA.  Also, I'm a member of the Nigeria Internet Governance Forum, a co-founder and a member of the board of trustees.

 Also, I'm the president of the Global Network for Cybersolutions.  That is an organization that has been advocating for cyber solutions in Nigeria in the last 15 years.  And, furthermore, I have been in the Internet governance space in the last close to ten years.  But I really want to appreciate the fact that I joined the MAG last year.  And that has broadened my knowledge and actually exposed me to international diplomacy on Internet governance.

 At the same time, I was recently appointed as a member of the National Cybercrime Council in Nigeria.  And, currently, I'm also an advisor to the EcoWest community -- economic community of West Africa because we are trying to reform the West Africa IGF forum.  And I think we're very soon going to make announcement on the day that we are to have that regional forum.

 So much for now.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR:  Thank you.  I think if I'm looking back, Laura, you are the next.

 >>LAURA HUTCHINSON:  Thank you.  My name is Laura Hutchinson.  I'm a new MAG member representing the technical community.  I work for Nominet, which is the country code TLD for U.K.  And we also run the gTLDs for Wales and Cymru.  

 I attended my first IGF in 2007 which was the one in Rio.  I think I have just missed one since then.

 I have also participated in the open consultations and MAG meetings -- previous MAG meetings as an observer.  I also participate in the regional and national group coordinated by Anja that organized the main session at the last IGF.  

 I also participate in ICANN, and I'm on the working group for the use of country and territory names as TLDs.  

 I'm very pleased to be on the MAG and look forward to working with you all.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Thank you.  Constance as an outgoing.

 >>CONSTANCE BOMMELAER: Thank you.  I'm Constance Bommelaer, Senior Director of Global Internet Policy at the Internet Society.  

 Before joining the Internet Society, I worked for the French government specifically on information society issues.  Part of my portfolio comprises the organization's, the Internet Society's, engagement with the IGF.  I served on the MAG for several years until 2015.  Last year I also served as advisor to the chair of the MAG on intersessional activities to accelerate the process and work towards IGF outcomes for IGF 2015.  And as many colleagues, I'm very happy to help any newcomers on the MAG towards a successful IGF 2016.  Thank you.

 >>GIACOMO MAZZONE: Hi.  I'm Giacomo Mazzone from EBU, European Broadcasting Union.  I'm here representing the World Broadcasting Union.  That is nine unions in the world in each region and we have members in all the countries of the world recognized by the United Nations and beyond.  

 We, as WBU, are in ourselves a multistakeholder organization because we have a private sector, we have civil society organizations and state organizations within us, and some of our members are also international intergovernmental organizations, so it's a little bit confused, the separation there.  

 We have been partners of the World Summit on Information Society in 2003 in Geneva and since then we have been involved in all the activities.  I've personally attended all the IGF meetings and all the IGF preparatory meetings and MAG meetings since the beginning.  As organization, we have been ECOSOC member (indiscernible) at the U.N., we are partners with UNESCO, sector members of the ITU, observers to the GAC, founding members of EuroDIG, member of the ICC, and you can name all the rest, and we have been pleased to participate in NETmundial in Brazil, et cetera, et cetera.

 As a person, I have 33 years of experience in journalism and media.  I'm one of the founding members of Euronews.  I've been board members of Eurosports and I'm founding member of the (indiscernible) IGF.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: The transcribers are doing an excellent job, but just to note for the transcribers that that wasn't, in fact, Julian Casabuenas who was speaking but Giacomo Mazzone.  

 I think we're done with the incoming and outgoing and current MAG members, with a few sort of exceptions in a moment here.  Let me just check and see if there are any more on line, and then we have two other categories of MAG members to introduce, and that is the -- there are representatives from Internet -- intergovernmental organizations that have a special role in the MAG.  We've got four or five representatives here so we'll ask them to introduce themselves as well.  And then of course each host country also has a representative to the MAG as well, and there are three or four of them here as well, so we'll ask them to do a brief introduction as well.  

 But Anja, are there any more online participants?

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION: Thank you very much.  We have four current MAG members that have joined us.  Peter, the floor is yours now.

 >>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: Thank you, everybody.  Can you hear me all right? 

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION: We can hear you.

 >>PETER DENGATE THRUSH: Thank you.  So I'm appointed by the technical -- my name is Peter Dengate Thrush.  I am appointed by the technical community.  I'm a second-year MAG member returning.  I'm originally from New Zealand, but now based largely in the United States.  I've had a long connection with the Internet, mostly through the DNS, going back to 1995 or earlier, but I'm familiar with the birth and the growth and fortunately the extension of the IGF.  

 I've attended, I think, seven of the 10, including the first and the last, and in the middle have attended many regional IGFs all over the world, including in Russia, for example, and New Caledonia.

 I'm the former chairman of ICANN, the former chairman of the Asia-Pacific Top-level Domain Association and the former chairman of InternetNZ, the country code manager for New Zealand.  

 I'm very sorry I'm not there in person.  I'm very much looking forward to the work of this MAG and delighted to have heard all the extraordinary talent that's joined us and look forward to working towards the meeting in Mexico.  Thank you.

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION: Thank you very much.  

 And Bianca, the floor is yours.

 Unfortunately we can't hear you, Bianca, so we might come back to Bianca later, maybe.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: And I think, Baher, on the original pass, you're an outgoing MAG member.

 >>BAHER ESMAT: Thank you.  Thank you, Lynn.  My name is Baher Esmat.  I come from Egypt.  I'm an outgoing MAG member.  I joined the MAG back in 2012 as part of the technical community representation.  

 I work for ICANN.  I'm part of the global stakeholder engagement team at ICANN and have been involved in Internet policy and governance issues since WSIS.  I was part of the WGIG, or the working group on Internet governance, that was formed in 2004, and then, you know, I attended all IGF meetings and I've also participated in a number of working groups related to Internet governance including CSTD working group and IGF improvements.  I'm glad to be here today as an outgoing MAG member and I look forward to working with both incoming and outgoing MAG members in preparation for IGF 2016.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Thank you.  And now I think as I look around the room -- and, please, if I'm missed anyone, raise your hand.  If not, then we'll actually go to the representatives from three of the intergovernmental organizations and I think we have Cristina, Despoina, and Lee.  So Cristina?

 >>CRISTINA MONTI: Good morning, everyone.  My name is Cristina Monti.  I work for the European Commission.  I work in the Directorate General for Communication Network, Content, and Technology, and in particular, I am a member of the Internet Governance Task Force.  The European Commission has been a convinced supporter of the IGF since the beginning and also an important and committed donor, providing stable and continuous funding to the IGF and to the IGF's trust fund.

 And our plans are also to continue to do so in the future because of the value we see in the IGF as the open multistakeholder forum for dialogue on Internet governance issues.

 The European Commission has a particular interest in the Internet governance issues because of the importance of the Internet for Europe's economy and society, but also because we have the .EU top-level domain name which is administered by a nonprofit organization called EURID on behalf of the European Commission, and I am glad to announce that this week the .EU will turn 10 years old, so it's a -- we are going to celebrate this anniversary later this week.  Thank you very much.

 >>LEE HIBBARD: Hello, everybody.  My name is Lee Hibbard.  I'm from the Council of Europe, an IGO based in Strasbourg with 47 member states.  

 I think you all mostly know things like the Budapest Convention on Cybercrime and the European Convention on Human Rights, and my job has been over many years to sort of interface with governments and liaise on matters regarding human rights, the rule of law, democracy, and how that intersects with Internet, ICTs, et cetera.  

 So I find myself in many spaces.  The IGF.  I'm the observer to the GAC in the ICANN, for example, where we trigger debate on human rights in ICANN's work, which is now unfolding.  

 I very much -- I've spent quite a lot of time in developing policy documents with the governments in the Council of Europe on a range of issues from Internet governance principles to the integrity of the Internet to children's protection to freedom of expression, et cetera, so my portfolio is rather large.  

 I've been facilitating support for multistakeholder dialogue for quite a long time, supporting national and regional IGFs.  This week we have colleagues going to the Russian IGF in Moscow on the 7th of April.  I was -- I was -- we -- last year we -- we agreed upon -- the member states agreed upon a declaration in support of WSIS+10 review, which actually agreed upon a proposal for a 10-year extension of the IGF.  I very much hope that that helps why we're here today for the next 10 years.  

 So, you know, we're very great supporters of this forum.

 As Mark Carvell said earlier, we -- just last week, we -- the member states adopted a new strategy on Internet governance, a four-year strategy, which brings together all the things that we do and some new things as well, but mainly about actions.  There are too many to mention here, but what's important is that, you know, it's not just about the issues of the day regarding what human rights issues are happening now, but it's also about -- we're talking about issues regarding the law and about human rights that you all know about, but it's also about democracy.  It's about -- it's about sustainable approach to democracy and participation and citizenship and all these issues which are sort of coming in now through the outcome document, which I think is also important and telling.

 In that new strategy adopted last week, there are -- it's written down that we seek partnerships and synergies with U.N. agencies, with the IGF, with other stakeholder groups, so we have a mandate to be here.  We have a mandate to work together on these issues.

 So, you know, it's very clear, written down, that this is supported by all those countries.

 I've been involved in the Tunis stage of the WSIS back in 2005.  That's how long I've been around.

 I've been involved in almost all IGFs since 2006, organizing a range of events.  Last year we organized a joint open forum with the OHCHR on privacy issues and the U.N. Special Rapporteur on privacy was there.

 I'm also involved in the WSIS forum and WSIS action line implementation with the U.N. agencies.  I was -- I was part of the setting up of the EuroDIG back in 2008.  And recently -- but this is a secondary activity -- I've also been involved in coauthoring a paper for the global commission on Internet governance on education 3.0 on Internet governance, together with the author, Divina Frau-Meigs.

 So I'm steeped in Internet governance.  I'm very supportive of this work.  I think I have a lot of expertise to share with you, and certainly I'm a focal point for other expertise and colleagues that you may wish to contact.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Thank you, Lee.  


 >>MAKANYE FAYE: Yeah.  My name is Makanye Faye from the U.N. Economic Commission for Africa, also the African IGF secretariat, (indiscernible) African Union, both (indiscernible) based in Addis Ababa.  

 We're leading the participation of the African countries in the WSIS.  That is the first phase.  And we organize in 2000 the first regional conference on (indiscernible) in Bamako which came up with the Bamako Declaration.  And then in 2004, we organized the Accra African Continent (indiscernible) which come up with the Accra commitment.

 We also are involved in the -- leading the follow-up of the WSIS action lines implementation from the Tunis summit, including African Internet governance, where we have been leading also throughout the years with the African Union Commission.  We are organizing our African Internet Governance Forum in the months to come.  The date is not yet fixed.  But I'm calling upon our African MAG members for the meeting tomorrow here in the same room at 9:15 to start (indiscernible).  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Thank you.  Despoina.

 >>DESPOINA SARIDAKI: Good morning, everyone.  My name is Despoina Saridaki.  It's written kind of differently so I think it will be a challenge for the scribes.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Apologies.

 >>DESPOINA SARIDAKI: No problem.  So I'm with the ITU and working in the area of Internet policy and cybersecurity since 2013.  The ITU has been very actively involved in the IGF since the very beginning, also bearing its role in the WSIS summit and organization of WSIS forum, as well as -- every year as well as its involvement in different action lines, WSIS action lines.  My colleague has also briefed you on ITU's work on WSIS so I won't be getting into that.

 So I'm the IGF focal point, a coordinator for within the ITU only since last year, so I got to know a bit more about the work of IGF since the Joao Pessoa event.  I did attend last year.  I'm hoping to do so this year.  And I'm also always excited to attend the MAG meetings because they're very informative, especially on how the IGF works and different developments in the area.  So thank you, and look forward to engaging with you further.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Thank you.  I think the -- we're getting down to the end of the introductions which I just find very, very helpful and very interesting, not only because it shows the wealth of sort of talent and expertise in the room, I think it actually showcases quite well a lot of activities and initiatives that are taking place around the world as well, so I think that's excellent.

 Again, the host countries also have a special role in the MAG and I think we have three here.  I see Christine from Egypt, and then we'll go to Thailand, and of course we have Brazil.

 >>CHRISTINE ARIDA: Thank you, Chair.  My name is Christine Arida.  I am with the government of Egypt.  I work for the National Telecom Regulatory Authority, and I'm here, as you mentioned, Madam Chair, because Egypt was a host for the fourth IGF.  We hosted the IGF in 2009 in Sharm El Sheikh, and ever since the WSIS and the very start, I have been involved, and I've attended all the IGFs.  I'm happy to be attending.  I stand to help any new MAG members that would need any support, so please turn to us if you need and I really wish Mexico all the luck and all the best, and the MAG and yourself under your chairmanship for a successful event in 2016.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Thank you.  And of course it was Indonesia, not Thailand, who was the next host country to address us.  Moedjiono?

 >>MOEDJIONO SARDJOENI: Yeah.  My name is Moedjiono from Indonesia.  I'm a MAG member since 2006 and I was a GAC ICANN member from Indonesia.  I was involved in the WSIS forum 2003 and also 2005.  I was in the ministry of ICT Indonesia and now I am a professor in (indiscernible) Jakarta, and I was organizer of IGF 2013 in Bali, Indonesia.  That's why I'm the special MAG member.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Thank you.  And Jandyr, are you going to be the representative from Brazil?

 >>JANDYR SANTOS: Thank you.  My name is Jandyr Santos and I work for the Brazilian government, Ministry of External Relations.  I'm the head of the Information Society Division.  This is the unit in the ministry that is responsible for following and coordinating Brazil's position in all Internet governance negotiations, be it in the United Nations, in ICANN, in the regional initiatives, so on and so forth.

 I work under the leadership of Ambassador Benedicto Fonseca.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Thank you.  And I think we -- we'd like Victor to introduce himself as an incoming MAG member and then maybe we'll go to an online participant, if there's a new, and begin to wrap this up.

 >>VICTOR LAGUNES: Thank you so much, Madam Chair.  My name is Victor Manuel Lagunes Soto Ruiz, so I beat you for one name, Juan.

 [ Laughter ]

 >>VICTOR LAGUNES: I have a couple of maiden name -- mother maiden names, so in Mexico we tend to recognize, of course, our mother's maiden name, but we also tend to not forget all our heritage so we just add up all our last names.  

 Anyway, so I'm an engineer by trade, electronics and systems, I do have an MBA, and most of my life I have been in the industry side, telecommunications sector, and also in the entrepreneurial ventures.

 It's only the last three years that I've been part of government.  I find it enthralling and very, very exciting, very different from my past life.  So I only had a suit, and that was for weddings, and I was used to just wearing T-shirts and jeans and I was very, very happy.  

 And I find it very interesting how Internet governance definitely has -- is shaping today and the future for generations.

 I'm learning, so I -- I actually believe it's a little bit unfair that I'm co-chair at the same time that I'm for the first time a MAG member.  So I'll be looking forward to -- to getting support from all of you at the same time that I will be very open and very -- and I'll have an ear open always for your contributions and taking advantage of your expertise.

 We -- in Mexico in the last three years, we have taken a very active role in terms of governance.  We've hosted many events including regional IGF and, of course, ELAC, which is the World Summit on Information Society, Latin American version.  Of course, we are very interested since Bali and then Istanbul, then Brazil to host the IGF.  I don't think we really knew where we were going to get into.  That's the reason why we probably asked for it.

 And I say so because of the (indiscernible) of just the time lines around, of course, being very vocal around getting the mandate renewed.  And now that we have it, now we are in the fast lane towards getting the event organized, very thankful for the support of Chengetai's team.  They've already made their trip to Mexico a couple of times.  They understand and they are very sensitive toward the time lines and, of course, the use of budgets.  We're in a different situation in Mexico than we were two years ago, mainly because of the oil prices.  

 So we actually are organizing this event in a very creative way.  And that actually means we're going to be activating the whole ecosystem in a way that I think we have to.  A multistakeholder approach to me means exactly that.  We cannot overly control the agenda.  

 At the same time, we have to give opportunity to the different holders of each stake to really contribute towards that.  

 In Mexico, we have a very vocal but a very small ecosystem, a proactive ecosystem, if I can call it that.  So we are looking forward to activating all of that and all of your expertise and all of your help.  So thank you.  

 >>REMOTE INTERVENTION:  We have Cedric that would like to speak on behalf of UNESCO.  

 Cedric, the floor is yours.

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 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: We can come back to Cedric.  I'll do a quick introduction for myself and then we can come back to Cedric and see if he's -- I mean, UNESCO is obviously a key organization in this space.

 So my name is Lynn St. Amour.  I've been involved in WSIS and IGF activities since the very earliest days.  In fact, as president and CEO of the Internet Society, we were invited to one of the earliest planning meetings back in 2001 in (saying name), and we've been -- myself personally has been involved in all the WSIS 1 and WSIS 2 PrepComs.  For those of you that know, those were weeklong meetings, several of them, in advance of the PrepCom Summits, which were also weeklong events, so very formative time for everybody.  It gave us a set of shared experiences, shared values, principles, a common language, just incredibly, incredibly helpful.

 I've attended every IGF since.  The first nine were, of course, as a part of the Internet Society in my role as CEO there, but last year I attended as well, and last year was, in fact, my first year on the MAG.

 I spent 27 years in Europe, though I am American, and I have both a significant amount of time in business, so 16 years with Digital Equipment and a few years each with AT&T and General Electric, back in the earliest days, but computing programming at that time, and laterally, with the Internet Society, where I was the president and CEO for I think 14 years.  I left there in very early 2014.

 So this Internet governance area is just critical to me.  I think it's critical for the advancement of society, for a much more equal and just society, as I think Virat said yesterday, and, you know, I really want to work to get the next 10 years of the IGF off to one of the more robust starts that we can.

 So I look forward to working with everybody.

 I'd also say the Internet Society, when I came to the MAG, was part of the technical organization.  In fact, in every other environment, we're a civil society organization.  In this organization, in order to give those organizations that have a specific role over managing key pieces of the Internet's infrastructure, this sort of fourth category was created.

 And I say that to all my civil society colleagues because I think we share many, many principles and values and I feel that as an individual and I certainly feel that from my ex- -- my old working life, despite the technical classification here of this organization.

 So I think with that, I'll -- we'll see if Cedric now has voice and we'll hear from UNESCO and then we'll move on to the next part of the agenda.

 >>ANJA GENGO:  Cedric, can you please try to speak?

 >>CEDRIC WACCHOLZ:  I don't know if you can hear me now.  My name is Cedric Waccholz.  I work for UNESCO.  And as we take for the first time the floor, I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate you, Lynn, on your appointment and be assured of UNESCO's full support of you as the Chair.  And, of course, also welcome to the new MAG members and all the entire IGF community online and in Geneva.

 Just a short note to say that UNESCO has taken specific note of the meeting, and we are not allowed to travel during this period.  We will certainly be with you at the next open consultation and MAG meeting.  And also we look forward to participating and contributing to the IGF in Mexico.  

 In UNSECO, I coordinate UNESCO's WSIS work across UNESCO's five sectors and this includes their regional Internet governance work.  We look forward to strengthen participation in the IGF.  

 Perhaps many of you know, we just had a new appointment of the assistant director-general Mr. Frank La Rue.  Many of you know (indiscernible) for freedom of expression.  

 And UNESCO has always participated in all IGFs from 2006 until the Brazil meeting, very successful Brazil meeting last year.  And we organized 50 workshops and joined other sessions.  

 Internet governance, last year was an important year for us.  Many of you attended the CONNECTing the DOTS conference with the multistakeholder recommendations which were then later in 2015 endorsed by UNESCO's government in the general conference.  

 And the work, the recommendation focused on access to information, freedom of expression, and privacy and ethics.  And UNESCO looks forward to contributing particularly in the upcoming and following IGFs since I think (indiscernible).  The opportunity to plan ahead for the next ten years is really an opportunity I hope we will use in our planning in the upcoming work.  Thank you very much.  (indiscernible).

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR:  Thank you, Cedric.  And thank you, everyone.  

 I thought that was very informative and very interesting and I hope really supports our work going forward well.  It certainly would enrich it in terms of understanding more about individuals' interests and background.

 So this is the first day of the MAG meeting.  Yesterday, again, was an open consultation.  So at this point in the agenda, we first turn to the 2015 host country for some remarks from them on last year's IGF and then we will turn to the 2016 host country for some additional remarks for the IGF.

 So is it Benedicto?  

 Benedicto, you are very welcome.

 >>BENEDICTO FONSECA:  Thank you, Madam Chair.  Just as we have done yesterday, I'd like initially to express our -- that we were very honored and proud to host last year's IGF in Joao Pessoa.  We would like to thank all those who contributed to this.  We think Joao Pessoa made a very important contribution, and we'd like to see those meetings, IGF meetings, make incremental gains.  So we think in Joao Pessoa, we were able to move ahead with regard to some areas of work that we have -- that the MAG has set for the meeting, and we were very pleased to host the meeting there.

 But as we have done yesterday, I'd like to -- with your indulgence, to turn to Flavio Wagner and Jandyr who represent Brazil in the MAG for further comments in that regard.

 >> FLAVIO WAGNER:   Thank you, Benedicto.  

 We think that we have many good lessons that we have learned during the organization of IGF 2015 in Brazil.  And many MAG members and people present in the open consultation yesterday reflected in their statements this satisfaction with the community with the results that we had there.  

 I think that many of those lessons, the MAG should try to keep these in future meetings, in future IGF meetings.

 We know, of course, now that IGF 2016 is already being organized.  A venue has been chosen.  And, of course, we are sure that our friends from Mexico will do the best possible event there.  And maybe this -- some of these considerations I make should stay for future IGF meetings as kind of a set of requirements in regard for local arrangement, logistics, and so on.

 So many people mentioned yesterday the fact that the localization of the IGF village was very important in the middle of the event, so together with the coffee break area, so all people between sessions were all together there which was very important for networking.  So we think that this should be kept in mind when organizing future events, that we have this central place for the IGF village.

 Many people talked yesterday about free lunch in a large common area.  This is also very important.  We remember from previous IGF meetings that this could be a problem if people have to leave the venue to find food or if the area for lunch is outside the main venue area.

 So we think this is important.  We know that this can be very costly if we offer free lunch to all attendees, but this should be an effort that is worthwhile to think how to provide this for the attendees in an area which is large enough so that people can also use this as a networking area.  And this is very close to the main venue premises.

 Also rooms for bilateral and multilateral meetings also very close to the main area are important.  And this was provided in Brazil, maybe not with a large number of rooms but this should be also kept as a good requirement for future IGF meetings, the easy identification of rooms.  

 It's not only food that people need to be in good shape for all discussions.  It's also excellent WiFi connection.  We made a very large effort in Brazil for doing this.  And I think this is important, is food and WiFi.

 There was -- I think that when we started organizing IGF last year, here in the MAG and organizing the schedule of the main sessions and workshops, we had a discussion on the extension, the duration of the schedule each day.  And there was a problem with the translator that were usually hired by United Nations in this event, in the IGF meetings.  And, in fact, the decision was to extend the duration so that -- of the activities until the evening, or beginning of the evening, late afternoon.  And this put some requirements on the duration of the activities of the translator during the day.  This is also important that we have this flexibility as a MAG to organize the sessions and extend activities on a daily basis depending on the requirements.

 So, of course, maybe Hartmut should be the right person to talk about all those aspects because it was mainly his duty to do this.  And he did it very well.  Was an excellent organization by Hartmut and his team.  

 But I think this lesson should be kept for future events, kind of requirements that MAG would set for -- to the local organizers of future events.  So thank you.

 >>JANDYR SANTOS:  Thank you, Chair.  And I had the privilege of making some preliminary comments yesterday during the open consultations on the IGF Joao Pessoa.  And I do not intend to repeat everything I said.  And I just want to be brief and say -- and reiterate that the Brazilian government is ready to help to the best of our capacities our Mexican friends in organizing the Guadalajara meeting.  Thank you very much.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR:  Thank you.  And, again, thank you to Brazil to CGI.BR, to the Brazilian government, to the Brazilian Steering Committee for all the work you did.  It really was just a tremendous, tremendous IGF and very much appreciated.  And certainly your continuing support to the IGF and your show of force -- (laughter) -- is certainly much appreciated.  Thank you.

 So I think with that, we'll move to the IGF 2016.  And, Victor, you can feel free at this point in the agenda or later on to -- at some point today, we're going to have to get a little more specific about the venue and the facilities so that it actually aids our planning around workshop size, numbers, and format, and that sort of thing.  That would normally be done in probably an hour or two in the agenda, but I'll leave the flow up to you.  

 So welcome.  And we look forward to just as successful an IGF in 2016.

 >>VICTOR LAGUNES:  Thank you, Madam Chair.

 So I would like to start by thanking you all for your feedback regarding the Brazil IGF.  I think the comments were very enlightening.  They are very logical, or most of them are very down-to-earth, which is we need to have a very comfortable forum, everything from the agenda itself all the way into food and so on.

 There are some comments that I would like to capture and underscore around the IGF village.  Of course, to me, it's very, very important that the networking aspect of it is protected and it's not only protected but actually risen to a level that we are comfortable to talk to each other, to discuss practices, to share our own experiences within our countries and, of course, within our regions.  So on our side, we will be, of course, focusing on creating that environment.  

 Of course, I captured as well the agreed comment that Virat and Cheryl made around scheduling and agenda, around, I guess, workshops versus main sessions that have to be working to those four days.  The workshops supporting and in conjunction to strengthen the main sessions.

 Food and coffee, I think there was a comment around an espresso Mexican coffee.  I will do my best.  If not, we so have very good coffee in Mexico.  We definitely need it at times.

 We have organized these events, so we feel comfortable that we'll be able to make a very successful one around technology, for example, infrastructure all the way from the WiFi connectivity into the Internet connection to the outside world.  Just to give you how I think around the engineering aspect, if we give one gig of connection and we're 500 people downloading the streaming channeling to our phones, we'll just completely take over that bandwidth.  And that's how we think about it.  So in these events, we deploy around two gigabits-per-second connections.  And sometimes the bandwidth we deploy is the bandwidth that will be used.  Nonetheless, without connectivity, this event I think will be losing some of the value.  So on that side, we will be working with technology advisors within the U.N.'s group who already have been in the country, already saw the venue, and, of course, presented their comments and their feedback.  Nonetheless, we feel comfortable that we'll be able to present a very comfortable technology environment.  But that's logistical, I believe.

 The main value I would like to open for discussion is the content.  The one that I captured is around long-term thinking.  So, of course, it's the first iteration or the first IGF after the mandate was renewed.  So within that, we really have a very good opportunity to present to long-term strategy, what we want to create and how we want to position IGF for the next years, what type of topics we want to touch upon or strengthen.

 And, of course, how to engage the different groups.  There was many a conversation around how to engage developing countries, bring them or invite them to have more participation.  

 Of course, I think it works against us meaning -- coming from Mexico, I know this by heart.  It's more difficult for developing countries to go to an international event more than, of course, developed countries.  On the other hand, I think it's a way richer event if we're able to gather as much presence from many countries.

 Of course, how to engage our youth will be, of course, taking their first experience as to create a stronger event and really engage with our younger generations.  I believe their voice needs to be heard, and their concerns need to be addressed fully.

 Gender gap is a very important, of course, topic in Mexico and elsewhere.  I think it's taken a very high priority level in everyone's agenda to (indiscernible) the gender quality issue or topic.

 And how to engage remote participation, I think that's technology based.  And, also, we need to support the other national and regional events in the agenda towards the Mexico IGF.  

 So really if you do have an event that we are not recognizing today -- so I was hearing that some of the national and regional IGFs, we need to have certain presence either remote or face-to-face presence in your events so that we work towards a stronger global Mexico 2016 IGF.

 Certain topics that were risen, of course, around cybersecurity, human rights online versus, of course.  Cybercrime and the persecution of cybercrime are high on the agenda.  I think those topics are touched upon many of the different international forums.  Yet, I believe there's a big area for opportunity to (indiscernible) them better.  They're higher and higher in criticality.  Yet the ecosystem (indiscernible) in a stronger way.  That's my personal opinion coming from the experience within the areas of government that I work with.

 Others, the digital divide, so many -- how to connect the next billion as well as how to capitalize on the fourth industrial revolution.  I think those are the key -- those words that were touched upon over the last year, yet they're very true.  So we need to take them and gather all the information on all the lessons learned and bring them over into the forum.

 Net neutrality and zero rating are just a couple of items that we need to focus on.

 So the value proposition that we are starting to build upon -- and I know it's a work in progress still -- is to have a technology-infused event to facilitate collaboration, either in place, so within the venue, but bridge that gap into the remote participation.  So have the ecosystem itself, the global ecosystem, in Mexico even though they're not physically present.  I think that's a challenge, of course.  For those of us who have remotely attended, sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's hard to really get the experience via a channel that is just streamlined or Web streamed or Webcasted.

 The promise or the position that we want to have in Mexico is to deploy even a mobile app -- and I will be putting that forward for your feedback -- to engage better in forums.  Mobile apps have been very successful into triggering more networking and bilateral meetings and really making a richer -- truly a more richer event.  So I believe we should consider it in order to engage the larger community.

 As well, understand what we were going to do around the zero day -- day zero.  Of course, we would like to position a high level ministerial, a high-level VIP community, to understand those topics at higher levels.  Nonetheless, I've been looking into your input to strengthen that day and really bring forward the right information to the right groups so that we have a richer day zero event.

 I would like at this time to present -- as I said yesterday, we're working very hard towards launching the Web site.  There were some comments yesterday as to having the Web site ready in time, so Yolanda here, a critical part of our team, and I were working towards having that launched and it's ready.

 If you can help me -- I don't know if you can bring it forward, but the IGF Web site is ready.  It's  

 The information that I shared with you yesterday is posted on line.  Of course it's a work in progress.  You can be overly critical, because I think the faster we can get the best information up there, it's -- it's better.

 But mainly it's around, you know, Mexico, Jalisco, which is the host state, and of course Guadalajara, which is the city, how to get there, the type of venue, the type of airport that we have, and of course the area and neighborhoods surrounding the event.  

 There's some contact information in there that I'm changing because it's actually from one of my teammates and I believe we should have a more formalized communication channel instead of just one single person's email being up there.

 I don't want to overwhelm my own team, but we'll be responding to those -- that contact information fully.

 So Israel, I don't know if you know him, many of you do already, he's a foremost expertise in the Internet governance topics.  He's currently in Argentina and is actually working full-time in the IETF and in this forum supporting us.

 If you do have some comments or questions around the Web site or any other topics that I mentioned, please bring them forward.

 Madam Chair has given us the opportunity to present the video that we presented yesterday with sound, and of course I'm always thankful and always happy to share a little bit of Mexico with all of you, so thank you.  Thank you.

 [ Video playing ]

 >> (Off microphone.)

 [ Video concludes ]

 >>VICTOR LAGUNES: Thank you.  So in essence, and with this, I close on my remarks.  We believe that Mexico presents a very good example of how the governance -- the Internet governance topic can be addressed.  Mexico is a very rich country in many, many ways, yet it presents its own challenges in many others.  We're -- everything from -- well, we range from either the 10th largest to the 15th largest economy on the planet, depending on how you measure it, yet we still have 48% of our people not connected.  It's a very strange balance.  And this comes also from the ecosystem that our own telecommunications industry works within the country and also from the different approaches that the government has had over the last years.  We're very proud that the telecommunications reform launched a couple years ago is dramatically shifting the landscape in Mexico and is rapidly bridging our digital divide.

 Still, there's many, many challenges to be -- to be worked upon over the next years, yet with events such as this one and bringing awareness to our higher-ups or to our executives, we can definitely connect Mexico better and bring those opportunities to our most vulnerable groups.  Thank you.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Thank you.  Thank you.  Very, very excited to be going there later this year.

 At this -- we'll come back to some more of the specifics around the venue and the planning probably just after lunch.  

 At this point in the agenda is when we do a quick review, MAG orientation, so a discussion on terms of reference, roles and responsibilities.  That doesn't normally take all that long.  This is also the discussion point in the agenda where we will talk about any of the other IGF MAG modalities.

 I would like to hold that discussion to this side of lunch, though, so people should plan their remarks accordingly.  Keep them as brief as possible.  And when we come back after lunch, we will actually start with the planning of the meeting.

 So at this point in time, we're on what was Agenda Item (c) and (d), MAG orientation and discussion of IGF MAG modalities, and with that, I'll turn the floor over to Chengetai.

 >>CHENGETAI MASANGO: Thank you very much, Chair.

 I'll try and be as brief as possible as well, because I know we're going to be pressed for time at the end.

 So just to start off with, with the MAG, the Tunis Agenda gave us, the United Nations secretary-general, to -- in an open and inclusive process, to convene a new forum for multistakeholder policy dialogue called the Internet Governance Forum, and so this was done in 2006 when the IGF was formed.

 And the United Nations secretary-general decided to form a Multistakeholder Advisory Group to advice him on the program and schedule of the annual meetings, so -- and which you all are members of that group.  You've been appointed by the United Nations secretary-general, as you know.

 So the main document of reference that I'm referencing to now is the MAG terms of reference, which we've come up with after discussions with the MAG and also with UNDESA, all of us, and it's available on the Web site and it's under the MAG tab.

 So I'm going to go through this document actually starting from I think the most pertinent part here, which is the term duration.  

 So you all know that you've been appointed, first of all, for one year, which is renewable for up to a maximum of three years, and so every single year, the MAG is rotated by at least one-third in order to enhance the diversity and also to bring in new ideas.

 On very exceptional circumstances, a MAG member can serve for a longer period of time, but I don't see this happening from the time onward, because I mean there's a lot of interested people, interested individuals, that can be in the MAG.  

 Also, in terms of the renewal process that's one-third, we usually concentrate on those people who have been on for three years.  We also keep what we call a MAG scorecard which we just take down, for instance, attendance and engagement in mailing lists.

 We are aware that some people may not be that active because MAG members have got different type and different levels of experience and also different comfort levels in speaking out in meetings, but if a MAG member just makes the effort, you know, to attend, to listen.  And we know that it takes maybe a year, may take two years for people to actually engage, but we just need an indication that that MAG member is interested in being on the MAG and things should be fine.

 Some basic assumptions of MAG members that we assume that all MAG members are willing to commit to the work on a voluntary basis and to follow through on that work as well.

 So we do assume that if a MAG member joins a group, that they will follow through from the beginning to the end.

 We are aware that of course you do have other jobs to do.  You do have day jobs and sometimes there are times that you may be busy with your paid job but you can always come back in and we do take that into consideration.

 You have ability to work as a team member.  

 You want to actively participate in the ongoing IGF process and also have extensive linkages between the MAG and also your stakeholder groups and other stakeholder groups.  There are some MAG members who are, you know, very active in more than one stakeholder group and we expect that these MAG members will impart information that they have received or the information of what is going on within the MAG in the IGF process to their various stakeholder groups.

 One thing to mention as well is that you may come from your individual stakeholder groups but once you're in the MAG, you do serve in your personal capacity, so we have some MAG members who, after a year or in the middle of the year change stakeholder groups, and I have questions are they still on the MAG because they came in from one stakeholder -- 

 The answer is yes, you are still on the MAG.  

 So you may change stakeholder groups, you may change jobs, but once you're in, you're in in your individual capacity and you are not bound to follow the recommendations -- I'm saying this carefully -- of one stakeholder group or one position.  We expect that you are giving advice from your own personal experiences and your own personal views, and that's how we try and increase the diversity and point of views.  We just -- we don't want bloc views.  We want your personal views as well.

 So generally speaking, for individual members' responsibilities, there's generally three face-to-face -- two or three face-to-face meetings each year, and we would like all MAG members to attend either virtually or physically.

 The -- we do provide help, funding, travel support for MAG members from developing countries, least-developed countries, and transitional economies, provided that they have fulfilled the requirements of the last time they were funded, and this information is available on the MAG tab on the IGF Web site, the funding criteria and how you can apply for funding.

 Last year and in previous years, we've had virtual meetings every single two weeks, and I think we are going to continue having regular virtual meetings just to carry on the work forward, and we would like that the MAG members, if they can, please attend those virtual meetings.

 We do send out Doodle polls and we try and make it so that -- we know MAG members come from all over the world so we will not have it at 3:00 Geneva time every single time because we know that people in L.A. and people in Asia, it may be, you know, 3:00 in the morning, so we try and have it in different times each time, referencing GMT time, of course.  Yes.

 We would like MAG members to engage in outreach activities to the wider community.  We are also a little bit careful about this.  MAG members should try and tell people, inform people, of the work of the IGF, the MAG processes, the intersessional work, try and get people involved and to participate in this work, but not to purport that they represent the MAG, as such, but they are just informing people of the MAG work, and also in regional and national IGFs they can advise.

 Also in the workshop submission process, we would expect that MAG people can offer their help to workshop proponents on how the workshop organizer can formulate a good workshop proposal.  

 We also expect MAG members to participate in the annual meetings if they can.  I've already touched upon intersessional work.  And also, the other way around, to bring comments from the community into the MAG.  So you can act as a conduit both ways.  To the community and from the community.

 Identify emerging Internet governance issues and bring them into the MAG.  I think this falls under the previous statement that I made.

 Facilitate in the organization of workshops.

 Coordinate panels in the workshops.  

 And also one very important thing is that we ask MAG to help evaluate the workshops and mark the workshops.  It is -- I mean, sometimes we have over 200 workshop proposals and I know it is a very tiring process.  We might find other ways to do it, but it's very difficult to have -- to divide the workshops up because MAG members -- well, individuals have different ways of rating workshops, so if 50 easier graders grade 50 workshops and then the hard graders grade 50 workshops, it's not really fair to the workshop proposers, so at the moment we haven't found a better method to do it and we ask MAG members to grade all the workshops, but we may find other ways.  I'm not too sure.  I mean, we're always very open to suggestions.

 And I think that's all that I have in my notes for MAG responsibilities.

 If anybody's got any questions or seeks any clarifications, please, I'm open to questions.  Back to the chair.

 >>CHERYL MILLER: Thank you, Chengetai.  I had one question with respect to the -- if someone changes a stakeholder group, is it the case that they remain listed as the stakeholder group they've come in under or do they then have the capability of switching groups?

 So in other words, if I moved from business to civil society, am I then counted as civil society or do I remain counted as business?

 >>CHENGETAI MASANGO: On the list, we state the stakeholder group that the person came in as, but then again, as people are acting in individual capacity, once they enter the MAG -- this is the question -- does it really matter which group they switched to when they are serving that year's term?

 >>CHERYL MILLER: So my answer to that -- the only answer I would have for that would be, just because we have a certain allocated number of seats for each group, that may be an issue.  

 I'm not saying it is, but I'm just saying in the future if there was a lot of movement, it might be an issue for groups, say, if they lost three seats because three people left to go to another group.  Because I don't -- you guys don't reallocate seats then, correct?

 >>CHENGETAI MASANGO: No.  But then there is a reallocation on the next renewal when that will be taken into consideration.

 >>CHERYL MILLER: So that's when that would be considered?


 >>CHERYL MILLER: Okay.  So that answers that.

 >>CHENGETAI MASANGO: But not during that term.


 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: So we have Michael Nelson and then Segun and Arnold.

 >>MICHAEL NELSON: I just wanted to thank Chengetai for clarifying that and also to indicate that I think it's very important that we have people on the MAG who might be wearing two or three different stakeholder hats at the same time.

 Both Cheryl and I have been in and out of government and done other things, so I think we have a better understanding of how the other different groups are seeing some of these issues, and that is something that I think the MAG does better than some of the other multistakeholder groups where you tend to have people who are all in one or all in the other.  So thanks again for clarifying.

 >>CHAIR ST. AMOUR: Segun, you have the floor.

 >>SEGUN OLUGBILE: Okay.  Thank you.  I just want to raise a concern about the manner in which the -- the MAG is announced.  Sometimes when we are appointed we discover that we are announced just on the U.N. press release, and even when your appointment is concluded or terminated, you -- there is no formal letter of appreciation from the IGF secretariat, so I really want the secretariat to look into it.  Thank you.

 >>CHENGETAI MASANGO:  Understood and point taken.  Usually we do do that.  This year was a special year because everything was rather rushed.  We couldn't do anything before