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      Oct 31, 2016
       
      Dear IGF Secretariat,
       
      We are pleased to submit this contribution for your public consultation on the IGF retreat  retreat on behalf of the Internet Governance Civil Society Co­ordination Group (CSCG). CSCG exists solely to ensure a coordinated civil society response and conduit when it comes to making civil society appointments to outside bodies. It comprises representatives of the coalition members of the Association for Progressive Communications, Best Bits, Internet Governance Caucus, Just Net Coalition, and Non­-Commercial Stakeholders Group of ICANN. Together the reach of these groups extends to many hundreds of non-governmental organisations, as well as a much greater number of individuals. These comments are made to p. 37, 39 and 40 of the Review Platform, therefore, we do replicate the text in all paragraphs.

       
      In line with our mandate, this submission concentrates specifically on improving the nomination process and make­up of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG). In order to follow the key actions taken so far, we take this opportunity to bring attention  to the prior steps related to MAG nominations:

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      1.    In New York, from 14 to 16 July 2016, the IGF Retreat took place. The result of this meeting, is a public document[1] open to public consultation until 31October 2016. With regard to MAG, the paragraphs 37 to 49 address different points related to its work, and its selection process. Relevant information is copied below:

      ¶37 Improving the nomination process and make-up of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG), and the MAG Chair
       
      ¶ 39
      There was general agreement that there is a need for a more transparent selection process across the different stakeholders groups and clearer criteria and priorities to enable more consistent candidate selection processes across the different stakeholder communities. At the same time, many expressed that it should ultimately be the prerogative of the UN Secretary-General to exercise his or her final judgement in selecting MAG representatives having flexibility to ensure appropriate diversity.
       
      ¶ 40
      A need was also expressed to have greater awareness and transparency in the selection processes used by the different stakeholder groups. Some felt there should be a set of specific criteria and priorities for nominations. Others felt that it is difficult for the communities to identify, target and come up with adequate candidates with insufficient information on what the UN Secretary-General is looking for.
       
       
      2. On 18th October 2016, The eighth IGF Virtual MAG Meeting of the 2016 IGF preparatory cycle took place. Ms. Lynn St. Amour moderated the meeting as Chair of the MAG and Mr.Chengetai Masango represented the IGF Secretariat.
       
      The Summary Report: IGF Virtual Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG9 Meeting VIII – 18 October 2016, states on p. 8):
       
      “Finally, the IGF Secretariat noted that the MAG renewal process would get started in the coming weeks, to try and ensure that the 2017 MAG was in place as early as possible. There was also a short discussion about whether or not names of MAG nominations should be made public or not.
      The Secretariat was asked to bring this question to the MAG list for discussion among the stakeholder groups as this is an important and quite nuanced point.
      Another suggestion that was made in regards to the MAG renewal process was that the Secretariat could update public information on the MAG, specifically the amount of years that each MAG member have served, their stakeholder group and geographical region, etc.
      Further information on updates to the MAG renewal process will be circulated to the MAG and wider community in the coming weeks, and the Secretariat, together with UNDESA, will make every effort to be as transparent as possible in regards to the nomination and selection process. The next MAG virtual meeting is scheduled for 8 November at 14:00 UTC.[2]
       
      3. The recording of this session was made public[3]. Even though sometimes is it is very difficult to listen with clarity and it was not always clear who was the speaker since the webex screen was not recorded, from minute 49.30 the discussion about the MAG selection process was raised by Chengetai, as an A.O.B. item.  Specifically he pointed out that in the past, the names of the nominees for consideration of the MAG have not been public and he addressed the question to the MAG if it should be like this (non public) for the next MAG renewal. Until minute 1.06.23 no decision was made and a request for written updates on this discussion sent to the list was made so as to gather feedback, highlighting the importance of transparency (minute 52.06)
       
      After reading both the IGF Retreat document and the MAG summary along with the recording of the virtual session it is still unclear how transparent the selection of MAG members and mostly, civil society stakeholders, will be. In this sense, the CSCG contributes to the public consultation on the IGF retreat addressing its attentions on the specific points related to MAG renewal. We stress the importance of transparency in civil society selection as MAG stakeholders and , in this sense, we  take this opportunity to reiterate our availability to and willingness contribute and collaborate in the process of selection of MAG members.
       
      The selection process of MAG members should be inclusive, predictable, transparent and fully documented. More transparency is needed. We believe that, in the interests of transparency, names and application details of all candidates for MAG selection should be publicly known. Whether this should be at the close of applications, or at the close of assessments, needs to be discussed further in the light of detailed procedures.
       
      Stakeholder procedures for making selections should also be publicly available(CSCG’s current procedures can be found at http://www.internetgov-­cs.org/procedures)
       
      We recommend that in the interests of transparency, names and application details of all
      candidates for MAG selection should be publicly known. This requirement should also be
      included when stakeholder groups provide their own processes, and also if a more centralised process is run via IGF Secretariat.
       
      These comments are based on the best practice we have observed with other
      organisations in selecting multistakeholder representatives. We offer the above suggestions in the spirit of co­operation , as we also want to see the best possible representation of stakeholders. And again, we offer our services to work with you and other stakeholder groups to refine procedures to ensure more acceptable, transparent and representative results.
       
      Analía Aspis – Richard Hill
      Chairs, Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group
       

      [1] http://www.intgovforum.org/review/igf-retreat-proceedings-ideas-and-suggestions/

      [2]http://intgovforum.org/pipermail/igfmaglist_intgovforum.org/attachments/20161025/0491282a/attachment-0001.pdf

      [3] https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-d-EIIQWsUiemNhVGwxbFRBeGc/view

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      Oct 31, 2016
       
      Dear IGF Secretariat,
       
      We are pleased to submit this contribution for your public consultation on the IGF retreat  retreat on behalf of the Internet Governance Civil Society Co­ordination Group (CSCG). CSCG exists solely to ensure a coordinated civil society response and conduit when it comes to making civil society appointments to outside bodies. It comprises representatives of the coalition members of the Association for Progressive Communications, Best Bits, Internet Governance Caucus, Just Net Coalition, and Non­-Commercial Stakeholders Group of ICANN. Together the reach of these groups extends to many hundreds of non-governmental organisations, as well as a much greater number of individuals. These comments are made to p. 37, 39 and 40 of the Review Platform, therefore, we do replicate the text in all paragraphs.
       
      In line with our mandate, this submission concentrates specifically on improving the nomination process and make­up of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG). In order to follow the key actions taken so far, we take this opportunity to bring attention  to the prior steps related to MAG nominations:
       
      1.    In New York, from 14 to 16 July 2016, the IGF Retreat took place. The result of this meeting, is a public document[1] open to public consultation until 31October 2016. With regard to MAG, the paragraphs 37 to 49 address different points related to its work, and its selection process. Relevant information is copied below:

      ¶37 Improving the nomination process and make-up of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG), and the MAG Chair
       
      ¶ 39
      There was general agreement that there is a need for a more transparent selection process across the different stakeholders groups and clearer criteria and priorities to enable more consistent candidate selection processes across the different stakeholder communities. At the same time, many expressed that it should ultimately be the prerogative of the UN Secretary-General to exercise his or her final judgement in selecting MAG representatives having flexibility to ensure appropriate diversity.
       
      ¶ 40
      A need was also expressed to have greater awareness and transparency in the selection processes used by the different stakeholder groups. Some felt there should be a set of specific criteria and priorities for nominations. Others felt that it is difficult for the communities to identify, target and come up with adequate candidates with insufficient information on what the UN Secretary-General is looking for.
       
       
      2. On 18th October 2016, The eighth IGF Virtual MAG Meeting of the 2016 IGF preparatory cycle took place. Ms. Lynn St. Amour moderated the meeting as Chair of the MAG and Mr.Chengetai Masango represented the IGF Secretariat.
       
      The Summary Report: IGF Virtual Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG9 Meeting VIII – 18 October 2016, states on p. 8):
       
      “Finally, the IGF Secretariat noted that the MAG renewal process would get started in the coming weeks, to try and ensure that the 2017 MAG was in place as early as possible. There was also a short discussion about whether or not names of MAG nominations should be made public or not.
      The Secretariat was asked to bring this question to the MAG list for discussion among the stakeholder groups as this is an important and quite nuanced point.
      Another suggestion that was made in regards to the MAG renewal process was that the Secretariat could update public information on the MAG, specifically the amount of years that each MAG member have served, their stakeholder group and geographical region, etc.
      Further information on updates to the MAG renewal process will be circulated to the MAG and wider community in the coming weeks, and the Secretariat, together with UNDESA, will make every effort to be as transparent as possible in regards to the nomination and selection process. The next MAG virtual meeting is scheduled for 8 November at 14:00 UTC.[2]
       
      3. The recording of this session was made public[3]. Even though sometimes is it is very difficult to listen with clarity and it was not always clear who was the speaker since the webex screen was not recorded, from minute 49.30 the discussion about the MAG selection process was raised by Chengetai, as an A.O.B. item.  Specifically he pointed out that in the past, the names of the nominees for consideration of the MAG have not been public and he addressed the question to the MAG if it should be like this (non public) for the next MAG renewal. Until minute 1.06.23 no decision was made and a request for written updates on this discussion sent to the list was made so as to gather feedback, highlighting the importance of transparency (minute 52.06)
       
      After reading both the IGF Retreat document and the MAG summary along with the recording of the virtual session it is still unclear how transparent the selection of MAG members and mostly, civil society stakeholders, will be. In this sense, the CSCG contributes to the public consultation on the IGF retreat addressing its attentions on the specific points related to MAG renewal. We stress the importance of transparency in civil society selection as MAG stakeholders and , in this sense, we  take this opportunity to reiterate our availability to and willingness contribute and collaborate in the process of selection of MAG members.
       
      The selection process of MAG members should be inclusive, predictable, transparent and fully documented. More transparency is needed. We believe that, in the interests of transparency, names and application details of all candidates for MAG selection should be publicly known. Whether this should be at the close of applications, or at the close of assessments, needs to be discussed further in the light of detailed procedures.
       
      Stakeholder procedures for making selections should also be publicly available(CSCG’s current procedures can be found at http://www.internetgov-­cs.org/procedures)
       
      We recommend that in the interests of transparency, names and application details of all
      candidates for MAG selection should be publicly known. This requirement should also be
      included when stakeholder groups provide their own processes, and also if a more centralised process is run via IGF Secretariat.
       
      These comments are based on the best practice we have observed with other
      organisations in selecting multistakeholder representatives. We offer the above suggestions in the spirit of co­operation , as we also want to see the best possible representation of stakeholders. And again, we offer our services to work with you and other stakeholder groups to refine procedures to ensure more acceptable, transparent and representative results.
       
      Analía Aspis – Richard Hill
      Chairs, Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group
       

      [1] http://www.intgovforum.org/review/igf-retreat-proceedings-ideas-and-suggestions/

      [2]http://intgovforum.org/pipermail/igfmaglist_intgovforum.org/attachments/20161025/0491282a/attachment-0001.pdf

      [3] https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-d-EIIQWsUiemNhVGwxbFRBeGc/view

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      Oct 31, 2016
       
      Dear IGF Secretariat,
       
      We are pleased to submit this contribution for your public consultation on the IGF retreat  retreat on behalf of the Internet Governance Civil Society Co­ordination Group (CSCG). CSCG exists solely to ensure a coordinated civil society response and conduit when it comes to making civil society appointments to outside bodies. It comprises representatives of the coalition members of the Association for Progressive Communications, Best Bits, Internet Governance Caucus, Just Net Coalition, and Non­-Commercial Stakeholders Group of ICANN. Together the reach of these groups extends to many hundreds of non-governmental organisations, as well as a much greater number of individuals. These comments are made to p. 37, 39 and 40 of the Review Platform, therefore, we do replicate the text in all paragraphs.
       
      In line with our mandate, this submission concentrates specifically on improving the nomination process and make­up of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG). In order to follow the key actions taken so far, we take this opportunity to bring attention  to the prior steps related to MAG nominations:
       
      1.    In New York, from 14 to 16 July 2016, the IGF Retreat took place. The result of this meeting, is a public document[1] open to public consultation until 31October 2016. With regard to MAG, the paragraphs 37 to 49 address different points related to its work, and its selection process. Relevant information is copied below:

      ¶37 Improving the nomination process and make-up of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG), and the MAG Chair
       
      ¶ 39
      There was general agreement that there is a need for a more transparent selection process across the different stakeholders groups and clearer criteria and priorities to enable more consistent candidate selection processes across the different stakeholder communities. At the same time, many expressed that it should ultimately be the prerogative of the UN Secretary-General to exercise his or her final judgement in selecting MAG representatives having flexibility to ensure appropriate diversity.
       
      ¶ 40
      A need was also expressed to have greater awareness and transparency in the selection processes used by the different stakeholder groups. Some felt there should be a set of specific criteria and priorities for nominations. Others felt that it is difficult for the communities to identify, target and come up with adequate candidates with insufficient information on what the UN Secretary-General is looking for.
       
       
      2. On 18th October 2016, The eighth IGF Virtual MAG Meeting of the 2016 IGF preparatory cycle took place. Ms. Lynn St. Amour moderated the meeting as Chair of the MAG and Mr.Chengetai Masango represented the IGF Secretariat.
       
      The Summary Report: IGF Virtual Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG9 Meeting VIII – 18 October 2016, states on p. 8):
       
      “Finally, the IGF Secretariat noted that the MAG renewal process would get started in the coming weeks, to try and ensure that the 2017 MAG was in place as early as possible. There was also a short discussion about whether or not names of MAG nominations should be made public or not.
      The Secretariat was asked to bring this question to the MAG list for discussion among the stakeholder groups as this is an important and quite nuanced point.
      Another suggestion that was made in regards to the MAG renewal process was that the Secretariat could update public information on the MAG, specifically the amount of years that each MAG member have served, their stakeholder group and geographical region, etc.
      Further information on updates to the MAG renewal process will be circulated to the MAG and wider community in the coming weeks, and the Secretariat, together with UNDESA, will make every effort to be as transparent as possible in regards to the nomination and selection process. The next MAG virtual meeting is scheduled for 8 November at 14:00 UTC.[2]
       
      3. The recording of this session was made public[3]. Even though sometimes is it is very difficult to listen with clarity and it was not always clear who was the speaker since the webex screen was not recorded, from minute 49.30 the discussion about the MAG selection process was raised by Chengetai, as an A.O.B. item.  Specifically he pointed out that in the past, the names of the nominees for consideration of the MAG have not been public and he addressed the question to the MAG if it should be like this (non public) for the next MAG renewal. Until minute 1.06.23 no decision was made and a request for written updates on this discussion sent to the list was made so as to gather feedback, highlighting the importance of transparency (minute 52.06)
       
      After reading both the IGF Retreat document and the MAG summary along with the recording of the virtual session it is still unclear how transparent the selection of MAG members and mostly, civil society stakeholders, will be. In this sense, the CSCG contributes to the public consultation on the IGF retreat addressing its attentions on the specific points related to MAG renewal. We stress the importance of transparency in civil society selection as MAG stakeholders and , in this sense, we  take this opportunity to reiterate our availability to and willingness contribute and collaborate in the process of selection of MAG members.
       
      The selection process of MAG members should be inclusive, predictable, transparent and fully documented. More transparency is needed. We believe that, in the interests of transparency, names and application details of all candidates for MAG selection should be publicly known. Whether this should be at the close of applications, or at the close of assessments, needs to be discussed further in the light of detailed procedures.
       
      Stakeholder procedures for making selections should also be publicly available(CSCG’s current procedures can be found at http://www.internetgov-­cs.org/procedures)
       
      We recommend that in the interests of transparency, names and application details of all
      candidates for MAG selection should be publicly known. This requirement should also be
      included when stakeholder groups provide their own processes, and also if a more centralised process is run via IGF Secretariat.
       
      These comments are based on the best practice we have observed with other
      organisations in selecting multistakeholder representatives. We offer the above suggestions in the spirit of co­operation , as we also want to see the best possible representation of stakeholders. And again, we offer our services to work with you and other stakeholder groups to refine procedures to ensure more acceptable, transparent and representative results.
       
      Analía Aspis – Richard Hill
      Chairs, Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group
       

      [1] http://www.intgovforum.org/review/igf-retreat-proceedings-ideas-and-suggestions/

      [2]http://intgovforum.org/pipermail/igfmaglist_intgovforum.org/attachments/20161025/0491282a/attachment-0001.pdf

      [3] https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-d-EIIQWsUiemNhVGwxbFRBeGc/view

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      For example, gender literacy gaps – including digital literacy – results in uneven capacity amongst women to use the Internet for their needs and capacities. – Here capacity used twice, seems one of them should be replaced with some other word. 

    • It is not clear what does ‘Part 1 of this document’ refer to. In the table of contents there are Parts A, B, C etc. throughout the document, but neither section of the document is marked as Part 1 in the TOC. Does Part 1 refer to the IGF Community Consultation? I think it makes sense to make clarify it here, because the document is not very intuitive to navigate, especially for newcomers or people outside of the IGF community.

    • Again, there are a few Parts A in this document, for those who want to go directly to that section this is misleading. Please clarify which section of the document this Part A refers to. Thank you.

    • How will it be shared exactly and will this infographic be available on the IGF webiste? Thank you.

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    • The final participants list though very balanced and diverse across a number of considerations are the same people we have been seeing at the IGF since its inception. Given the revolutionary changes the internet is facing itself and bringing to society it would have been worthwhile to include faces that bring new thought processes and perspectives to the IGF. Reaching out to them is important and critical for the development of internet.

    • Internet impact on the evolution is taking place mostly in developing countries where penetration is set to increase in the coming years. It is generally felt that IGF contribution in creating multi stakeholder participation from developing countries is very small and need to be increased to provide opportunity for people working for the development and growth of the internet in developing countries shape policies with multi stakeholder approaches.

    • A study should be conducted on the contributions of IGF from the perspective and benefits of developing countries and shared here.

    • Decision making on a wide range of public policies related to the Internet in developing countries is still being conducted in isolation. A recent example was the passing of Cybercrime bill in Pakistan.

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    • The representation of stakeholders at the IGF is thoroughly dissatisfying although often praised by insiders as being a useful discussion forum where public and private stakeholders can broaden their knowledge of Internet policy issues and their appreciation of other points of view, the tangible results of this knowledge exchange have been thin on the ground and back in the countries of origin.

    • IGF risks of becoming a forum that is only for founders or workers of new world order social organizations coming from urban professional elitist’s backgrounds. The weak links back in home countries and lack of sharing of knowledge gained from the IGF is resulting in shaping internet policy issues by their own perceptions of needs and problems instead from a community or a national/regional perspective. If the IGF aims are to become more than urban based elitist group speaking or working on behalf of members or beneficiaries than a more internally democratic and participatory approach is called for which involves consciously breaking with the approaches, attitudes and behaviors associated with Soviet top-down styles of identifying stakeholders.

    • Connecting the next billion seems to be a corporate agenda of global corporations which will benefit greatly in the form of financial gains, more surveillance and flow of information. At the IGF we should firstly focus on protecting the rights of users on important issues such as freedom of expression, speech and protection of 5eyes of surveillance. Strategic relationship and data transfers between the NSA and powerful global internet entities should be discussed before connecting the next billion and putting them under their surveillance.

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    • For these suggestions to be at all realistic, resources will be required to fund many MAG members’ participation, particularly those not from the governmental stakeholder group.

    • As a general rule, it would be unwise to impose criteria on the stakeholder groups, in my opinion. Each group has different ways of working and different priorities. That said, transparency and awareness would be greatly improved if the UN Secretary-General were to be clear on her/his requirements for geographic, gender, age and other elements of diversity. Knowing these in advance would make the stakeholders’ work easier and more effective.

    • There are many examples individuals who have benefited from the capacity-building impact of the IGF to date, and more specifically from the capacity-building programs offered by some of the stakeholder groups. This can be seen in their emergence as active participants and often leaders in their communities’ organizations and at the national and international level. It would be useful to gather a report (self generated?) to show others this positive impact, ideally as a means of encouraging more capacity building efforts connected with the IGF.

    • This is already happening to some degree, but institutionalizing a day devoted to capacity building would be useful.

    • Segregating government participants would work against the multistakeholder basis of the IGF. Instead, government participants should be encouraged to take advantage of broadly based capacity building efforts by any stakeholder. Governments themselves should take advantage of the IGF and related activities as a tool both for internal capacity building and in succession planning for their employees, but also for their citizens.

    • I wholeheartedly support Mr. Klensin’s comment regarding the need to keep the IGF focused on “actual governance issues that are Internet-specific.” Mandate creep has long been a threat to the IGF, and by openly committing to this principle would help to keep it on track, and thus to demonstrate its purpose and usefulness.

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    • Outputs should not be equated with “documents.” The outputs of skill and participation in Internet-related governance activities by all stakeholder groups may well be the most effective and demonstrable.

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      Governments are already engaged inside this groups and several initiatives with an strong leadership from regional leaders. So if we put IGF in their political/social/economical agenda, can be succesfull engaging governments with those issues.

    • Most of the times, even if you are right. have the right approach and resons, still need political support.

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      2. Work to not need political support when goverments are against some technical or expert positions for political considerations. What this mean is to allow a direct access from experts as an stakeholder and making clear the line between a technical issue (a fact) and a political issue (a conditioning)

    • NRIs are the right approach to join multiple stakeholders in a common and sustainable effort to work together.

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      2. A mix with volunteers and staff for NRIs. Most of volunteers have not enough time to attend meetings, work on minutes, organize events, travel, etc., so in some way the results depend on the time they can donate for free to NRIs. So it’s necessary to have hired people to work in the day to day. Of course it mean again reliable source funding.

    • We should work on metrics about WHY people is not intereested or engaged with IGF. Some possible answer has to do with:

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      2. Lack of practical expertise because most volunteers have only theorical access to discussions. Not enough geographical fellows and other ways to participate is the normal condition.

      3. Lack of Local work on IGF and related issues including content, on other languages than english.

    • Capacity Building programs in other languages than english. Not only translation is needed but customize the programs and contents. This is a must for regions like Latinoamerica where we have initiatives but always in the same level (beginners) and the world is running fast.

    • IGF for Academic is also a must. An structured, common and regional effort to make IGF in the academic curriculo of universities. For this we need governments participation in order to make IGF academic issues, a recognized, international and standarized content in the universitary level.

    • We should have an IGF secretariat at every country, with a dedicated and permanent, full time staff.

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    • Through local offices for support local initiatives and make the bridge with local initiatives, organizations an stakeholders.

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    • Independent NRIs is a must, but working very closed and with international practices. Independent means:

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    • The option to choose between one or another model (for profit or non for profit) depends also of the local legislation for the IXP. In any model what is important is to acomplish the goals for members and final users: expanded Internet access, mutual cooperation and engagement between members, neutrality of the IXP, and benefits for users with cheaper Internet access cost and best performance.

       

    • The for profit model like the one in IXP Ecuador, one of the IXP that exist in this country, run like a business, for operational purposes but has not a for profit goal. For the purposes of the members of IXP Ecuador, being a company works better for decisions more executive, and for bussines issues like hiring people, import goods for operation and for making investment decisions under a cooperation basis with members and providers.

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    • This is absolutly true like we have in IXP Ecuador.

    • Usually, most of the members of an IXP, have a lack of resources (this is normally true in developing countries where big Internet players have the big bussines) and it’s a complex situation to dedicate resources for a voluntaring model, pay high fees for acces to the IXP, or finance the conection to the IXP’s phisycal location.

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    • In the bussines model of IXP Ecuador for example, we look for partners and not for customers. Our members are part of the consultive board and we have a fastest growing because we finance the connection to the IXP on a long term partnership agreement with all the participants, ensuring in that way a really democratic access model for all small actors that really need the benefits of  an IXP.

    • When you run under a for profit model, you understand very well that partners and users always have options.

       

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    • When an IXP finally makes a decision on the technical model, it’s because is able to ensure prices and cost of operation competitive. Do not forget that all the operational and administrative costs of the IXP in any model, are finally part of the invoice to users and that users, always have options to choose from in the market.

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      Community networks (CN) are structured to be open and neutral. Such networks rely on the active participation of local communities in the design, development, deployment and management of the shared infrastructure as a common resource, owned by the community and operated in a democratic fashion. CNs can be operationalised, wholly or partly, through local stakeholders, NGOs, private sector entities and/or public administrations and are characterised by collective ownership; social management; open design and open participation; free peering and transit with networks offering reciprocity; as well as the promotion of free software and open standards and technologies.

      The fact that almost 60% of the world’s population lives in rural areas or urban slums suggests that new approaches – alternative to the mainstream commercial model – must be adopted if the Internet is to reach everyone. Over the past decade, a variety of successful examples of CNs have emerged on all continents, exploiting many technical and governance configurations, as documented by the Report of the Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity.  Such examples have demonstrated that CNs may be a viable option to connect the unconnected while truly empowering local communities and building local technical capacity. Notably, the establishment of CNs has proven that local stakeholders, including public administrations, entrepreneurs and NGOs, may become protagonists of the development of Internet connectivity, building infrastructure from the first square mile and proposing innovative sustainability models. Furthermore, CNs foster the development of new services, applications and local content as well as job creation – as in the Guifi.net and DEF India cases -. Therefore, CNs should be considered as a credible option for connecting the unconnected. Public policies should be crafted in order to facilitate rather than hinder the establishment of CN, as suggested by the Declaration on Community Connectivity. CNs are an example of connectivity for local communities by local communities through the community and relevant stakeholders. For further details, see: http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/index.php?q=filedepot_download/3737/174

       

  • Michael Oghia

    • Comment on IGF NRIs Toolkit on December 20, 2016

      I had submitted some substantive comments over email and hope they were incorporated. These include, what I see, is the need for:

      1. 
      Links to relevant resources:

      Previously submitted NRI documents from various regions that help illustrate and reinforce parts of the toolkit (and gives the reader an idea of what the required materials should look like);

      This includes NRI reports, which have been or will be included

      Other relevant documents and links from non-NRI-related resources (such as ISOC / ICANN documents about multistakeholder processes, etc.). 

      Including the Core principles is good, and also linking to the IGF Code of Conduct in case it isn’t. 
      Some resources I was thinking of regarding the MSM that could be good reference material were the following: 

      https://www.internetsociety.org/doc/internet-governance-why-multistakeholder-approach-works (ISOC)
      https://www.ourinternet.org/report (Global Commission on Internet Governance)
      http://pubdocs.worldbank.org/en/591571452529901419/WDR16-BP-Multistakeholder-Dutton.pdf (World Bank)
      https://icannwiki.com/Multistakeholder_Model (ICANN)
      http://library.uniteddiversity.coop/Cooperatives/Multi-Stakeholder_Co-ops/Multi-Stakeholder_Governance_And_The_Internet_Governance_Forum.pdf (Jeremy Malcolm, ed.).

      Best practices and recommendations; and
      A list of organizations or stakeholders that might be good places to reach out to for support and/or funding. There is no mention of the IGFSA, for instance (at least there did not used to be). I’m not sure if this was already addressed previously, but it was something that stuck out to me.

      2. Suggestions for how meetings are supposed to operate (with remote moderation, breaks, how to structure a meeting, etc.). And include a checklist of to-do items before, during, and after the meeting that could be useful.

      The checklist can be generated from a crowdsourced Google Doc with this information added by NRI coordinators (especially regarding things they wish they had known before they hosted their first meeting). There might already be one in existence or even circulating.

       

      3. I still think the budget section needs significantly more work, in that it needs to be more detailed and have relevant links to existing NRI budget formats. I recommend including more information on IGFSA as well.

      Since there is no one, uniform practice here (nor should their be since NRIs are bottom-up initiatives completely relevant and adapted to the local context), what I mean by existing NRIs budget formats is a copy of an NRI budget, without non-disclosed or private information, that NRIs can base their budgets off. Basically, how is the money allocated/divided? What are they paying for? Just to give an idea. It doesn’t have to be 10 it can be 1 or 2, one say from a developed country IGF, the other from a developing country IGF, (just a suggestion).

      4. I also recommend including resources like a glossary of terms/acronyms, and a helpful resource list of links at the end of the document. This can include a list of all the current NRIs and links.

      The toolkit will include the list of NRIs and all contacts. What I suggestedm though (and especially for newcomers) is that we define all terms used the publication (acronyms, abbreviations, organization names, processes, initatives, etc.), then (and perhaps link to DiploFoundation’s Glossary of Acronyms: https://www.diplomacy.edu/sites/default/files/IG%20acronym%20glossary_2015.pdf)

      5. Include more mentions of and encourage participation in IGF intersessional work, such as the Best Practice Forums (BPFs), Dynamic Coalitions (DCs), and Connecting and Enabling the Next Billion(s) (CENB). NRI contributions are incredibly critical to these initiatives, especially CENB.
       

    • Comment on IGF NRIs Toolkit on December 21, 2016

      In addition to my comment above, this could be a useful resource to include as well:

      The road to a local IGF: Strategies and experiences, a collection of tools useful to kickstart an IGF – a template for a SWOT, ideas and strategy for a fundraising plan, a communication strategy, and a roadmap template:  http://igf.academy/IGF-Academy-road-to-IGF.pdf)

    • Comment on IGF NRIs Toolkit on December 21, 2016

      And an addition to my second comment:

      The road to a local IGF: Country profiles, A condensed collection of the experiences fellows made (and are making) setting up a national IGF: http://igf.academy/IGF-Academy-profiles.pdf)

  • Michael R. Nelson

    • As I suspect you already know, the link to the “proceedings record” is wrong.  It should be http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2016-06-23-15-15-52/igf-retreat-proceedings  Instead, it currently links to the list of participants.

       

    • The IGF has certainly expanded its audience since the first three or four meetings when the focus really was on a narrow set of Internet governance issues and the attendees (and IGF members) were primarily “Internet insiders.”  Today, IGF examines a broader set of issues and spends more time on the communities impacted by Internet governance decisions rather than rehashing how those decisions are made (in other forums).

       

    • This may be the most important paragraph of the entire report.  Because the MAG members come from a wide range of backgrounds and because the proposal evaluation process rewards those proposals that are on topics that most or all of the MAG members are familiar with, it is very hard for proposals on brand new, emerging issues to make it onto the program.  IGF should strive to carve a niche for itself as a place where participants can learn how to anticipate new challenges in Internet policy and governance.  This may require some changes to the proposal solicitation and selection processes.

       

    • I find the use of the phrase “reinvigorate the IGF” is curious.  Was there agreement among the retreat participants that the IGF had stalled or grown stale?  If so, in what way?

       

    • One of the most important innovations that could be made to the selection process would be providing a platform (maybe on LinkedIn) where potential session organizers could indicate that they are thinking of submitting a proposal on a particular topic and solicit potential panelists.  Having served on the MAG, I have found it very frustrating to see four very similar proposals each of which were incomplete or less diverse than they would have been if the organizers had worked together on one or two strong proposals.  This would work much better than requiring “arranged marriages” of similar proposals after the MAG selection is done.

       

    • There is clearly a tension between “setting a theme” and allowing the IGF community to propose panels on the topics that are most timely and important.  In the past, the conference themes and the subthemes have been broad enough to accommodate a very wide range of discussions.  I would hate to see the IGF theme being used to block the kind of discussions we have had at past IGF meetings.

    • We need to be VERY careful not to impose a rigid, quantitative ranking system in which each proposal is given a score and that alone determines whether it ends up on the program.  If there are five, nearly-identical panels that all get high, nearly-identical scores, it would not make sense to accept them all–and exclude new topics and new participants that might now have scored as well.  The MAG must have the ability to “promote” proposals that may not have scored as well as redundant panels on well-worn topics.

    • I would be interested in knowing how an “apprenticeship programme” would work.  I think the NRIs and the inter-sessional work already provide valuable ways for people to get involved in the IGF community and to demonstrate the kinds of skills that might be helpful on the MAG.  Despite that, in the past, some new MAG members are often chosen who have not been deeply engaged in past IGF activities.  This is particularly true of representatives of IGOs.

       

    • This is essential.  It is hard to recruit and retain a great team of staff, if the funding and leadership of the IGF is not stable.  We have been very lucky so far to have a dedicated and talented group of people supporting the IGF.  But the kind of delay caused by the one-year delay in renewing the IGF mandate was VERY troubling.

    • This seems overly bureaucratic and would inhibit the day-to-day functioning of the IGF Secretariat.  The chair should be someone who know how to work with the full range of stakeholders involved in the IGF.   There is no way that two or three or four people can represent all the different interests of the IGF community–that’s what the members of the MAG do.

    • This is an excellent suggestion.

    • The IGF could do much more to connect people with similar interests while they are at IGF meetings.  Encouraging everyone to use the Web site to indicate their interest in specific sessions would be one way of helping people meet people they should know.

    • Does “participation” mean attending the IGF and the NRIs and learning or does it mean serving on the MAG and proposing panels?

    • These are all valuable suggestions.  It would be particularly useful to have the best and most interesting panels (and 3- to 7-minutes snippets of panels) highlighted on the IGF web site.  The TED.com site may be a model.  They do a great job of showcasing the most popular and most though-provoking videos.  And they have a mailing list and send out an e-mail every week or so pointing their audience to particularly cool talks.

    • There is a clear need to engage more representatives of governments and of private companies, ideally at a higher level.  One reason fewer private sector representatives are coming to the IGF is because they have fewer of their counterparts to talk with (and fewer senior government officials to interact with).  This could lead to a downward spiral.  The result would be that the only corporate and government people coming to IGF are people who are there to “prevent something bad from happening” rather than being there to contribute to fruitful and constructive discussions.

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    • “sub-task” could be better defined as “continued task” since work on VAW is ever-changing and the BPF augmentation of 2015 brings yet another snapshots on such an increasingly important topic

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    • Although some of the participants where NRI coordinators; I find there was not sufficient attention given to include this group. Each national and regional IG initiative is per se contributing to strengthen the global IGF, furthermore NRI coordinators have a profound knowledge how to build up IG debates in all parts of the world. Listening to them would be valuable in both terms, (a) how to improve the IGF planning process and (b) understanding regional differences and specifics.  

    • For clarification: The EuroDIG call for issues does pre-define „categories“.
      We are asking for issues of high interest to many stakeholders across Europe. In order to structure the proposals more easily, we are suggesting a few categories that can attribute to submissions. If a suggestion does not fit into one of the categories, a new one can be proposed.
      The difference to the IGF is that we are not declining or accepting session proposals, but aim to build a programme including almost all submissions.  Therefore we connect submitters which proposed a similar topic and encourage them to organise a session together. This is not always easy and needs a lot of facilitation and coordination work from the secretariat, as well as collaboration tools (wiki) and briefings. The process has become more stabile and clearer over the years and with the inclusion of subject matter experts we now avoid merging topics which do not really belong together.

    • It is frustrating for anyone (newcomer or experienced contributor) to be rejected. Although there are guidelines in place and templates for submissions provided acceptance or rejection is based somehow on a subjective POV and always questionable. Therefore we developed a process at EuroDIG (see comment paragraph 33), which is open to anyone willing to contribute. We don’t want so say “no” to anyone, who put an effort in getting involved; instead we would like to offer ways of including as many contributors as possible. Our aim is to mix communities and try to facilitate real multistakeholder debates.

    • I think there are not many examples to look at, if any at all. The selection process for a multistakeholder organisation (conference) must be different from any other conferences, where a programme committee is in charge of. The aim of the IGF should be to decrease the number of session drastically. Too many sessions are overlapping and reiterating. This leads to a rather fragmented approach instead of a multistakeholder discussion, because everyone is so busy with preparing its own sessions. Some speakers are heading from one session to another just giving their (repeatedly) statements, and not being able to contribute to one session in full. Too many of the same people (still too many MAG members) are involved in multiple sessions this gives a bad taste.

    • Thank you for this opportunity of providing input and for extending the public consultation deadline.

    • Fully support to avoid reinventing the process every year. I can speak from the EuroDIG perspective only: A clear process description (in words and in info graphic) which is more or less the same every year and published on the website will help the community to navigate. This process can be adjusted and improved where needed year by year, but the core should remain the same. Having such a stabile (not inflexible) process will also allow easier on boarding of new MAG members.

    • We should notice how many nations and regions have been inspired by the formation of the IGF back ten years ago and how fast this concept of open multistakeholder discussion has spread over the world. Many NRI’s have aligned their processes in order submit their results to the annual global IGF. However the process to integrate national and regional outcomes into the global forum could be improved. There are multiple opportunities, like regional open forums, one joint NRI session, inter regional meetings, best practise exchanges.

      It would help structuring the programme if we introduce a geographical component and provide space for all (5) regions equally to present their outcomes. Both should be possible; the opportunity for stakeholders of the respective region to meet and discuss whatever is on top of the agenda (in reach) and to present regional hot topics to all participants of the IGF (outreach).
      I see the following benefits of such an approach:

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      Informed participants would have a better understanding for regional differentiated arguments during each of the following IGF sessions. (I.e. why are participants from region abc arguing in this direction whilst region xyz has another focus?) This would support the multistakeholder discussion and the understanding for each other.
      Such an effort would require enhanced communication (or coordination) among national and regional initiatives from the same region, which is a multistakeholder process in itself.
      It offers an additional opportunity for stakeholder from one region to meet.

      In this year’s programme we see some regions / nations got a slot in the programme, whilst others have been rejected. What was the rationale behind such decision? It gives the impression the selection process was arbitrary.

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