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IGF 2019 – Day 1 – Convention Hall I-D – OF #3 African Union Open Forum - RAW

The following are the outputs of the real-time captioning taken during the Fourteenth Annual Meeting of the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) in Berlin, Germany, from 25 to 29 November 2019. Although it is largely accurate, in some cases it may be incomplete or inaccurate due to inaudible passages or transcription errors. It is posted as an aid to understanding the proceedings at the event, but should not be treated as an authoritative record. 



>> MODERATOR: Good afternoon.  Welcome to the AU open forum.  This is -- we have been doing this for many years now.  And I'm glad to see many familiar faces here in the room.

And it's very encouraging that we have you here all the time during the global IGF.

And just to remind everybody, this is we get together and discuss IG issues in Africa and learn from each other and try to keep everybody informed of initiatives in Africa.  Various initiatives on IG in Africa.

And we tell you where we are, where we are heading in terms of IG in Africa.  And we are very happy to have you here.

We had discussion with the IGF secretariat to make sure they allocate more time for this meeting because as time goes we see more participations and this is something really admirable.

And we also requested interpretation because in Africa we don't always speak English.  We have other languages so we need to make sure at least we have English and French moving forward.  Moving next year.  Starting next year.

Let me just take this opportunity to acknowledge the presence of business and parliamentarians and as we say in the environment all protocol observed.

Last year, we have the African IGF in Chad and it was really remarkable IGF.  We had one of the best IGF so far in terms of the environment in Chad and the number of people attending the IGF.

And I would really hope that the other country would take a cue from Chad and try to copy what has happened in Chad.  And we take this opportunity to thank the government of Chad and all of the stakeholders that were involved in making the event a successful one.

And I take this opportunity also to welcome the minister from Chad Dr. Bashar.  And I will give him the floor as a chair of the -- of the last African IGF to give a brief statement.  Your excellency.  (Applause).

>> Thank you.  (Speaking non-English language).


>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much, your excellency, for the statement.  Let me just remind you of the program for today.

We are going to have a kind of a briefing on the African IGF that took place in Chad followed by a statement by the MAG chair.  And also another statement from Mr. Makane Faye on the way forward.  And we are going to dedicate more time for an African Union initiative called PRIDA.  I think His Excellency referred to the initiative as we want to keep you up-to-date on the initiatives and we have more interactions from you.  We will tell you where we are, where we are heading, and hopefully we can get more valuable feedback from the floor.

Let me also take this opportunity to congratulate the new IGF MAG Ms. Andrea Esther.  Please stand up.

>> Stand up so that people know how who are new here.

>> Thank you very much.  Adil.

I would not have been selected if not foryour support and I need you Sur port going for.

The chair as a limited man Tate but one of the things I want to bring to the IGF MAG is greater inclusion and participation from all stakeholders.  Governments, business civil society.

>> MODERATOR: Let's work together.  After parliament, we will have the global IGF in Africa.  So let's have this as a goal moving forward.  And we are going to rely on your -- on you to help us a lot with regard to this session for instance.  We need more time.  We need interpretation.  This is in to-do list for you from now on.  Let me give the floor to Mr. Halime Assadya Ali to walk us through the event that took place in (?).

>> HALIME ASSADYA ALI: Thank you.  This is in English but I will present this in French to permit speak French speaker to understand.  (Speaking non-English language) (Speaking non-English language).


>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much, Halime.  So many firsts.  The first African youth IGF.  A statement declaration and so much.  What struck me from the participation, two-thirds of the participants were young people.  This is something really, really inspiring.

We move next to a statement by the current MAG chair, current African IGF MAG chair, Mrs. Mary Uduma.

>> MARY UDUMA: Bonjoir.  I'm Mary Uduma.  The current AF IGF-MAG chair.  I'm excited to see the number of people in this room and I also want to see such number as we go on to the Africa IGF 2020.  The location and time has not been fixed, but I want people to bear that in mind that we have Africa IGF 2020.

Before I continue I want to say thank you to the honorable minister from Chad and all the ministers here and parliamentarians here to be with us this short period.


>> MARY UDUMA: And we also want to say that Africa MAG put us in the global MAG 2020.  That is another thing we are celebrating.  We celebrate all of you and we want to see more countries run the national IGFs.  For now, not all of the countries in Africa or states in Africa have started their IGF process.  National IGF processes so we want to see that happen come 2020.  For Africa IGF, the hosting was great, as the report has said.  From university in 2013, we were -- we were accommodated at the five-star hotel and which is a great leap from what we used to have.

From non-government high level to the highest government level in the country at the presidency level participated at the Chad IGF and Africa IGF.  And so we are so much grateful to the Chaddian and in a short space of time they were able to pull together, pull together such a great hosting.  Thank you again, chat.

From less than 150 participants there was a day the hall was almost 1,000 people and it was a great time for us.  We could see that the bar has been raised and also the competition to host is stiff.  If you are not careful, it might be difficult to get that.  But we don't want to lower the standard, we want to go with that standard.

The billing bang of launching the youth IGF was the icing on the cake of Africa IGF in Chad.  And it was a big one, it was a good one, and so many youth came around to say Momma, how will I be part of IGF and some of them are still writing me and we are communicating and it was a good experience for us.  Local participation was very great.  Over 50% of participants or 70% of participants were from Chad.  And that is what we want all of the African countries to do.  Whenever we are coming to your country to host the Africa IGF, want to see participants, the local participants so that they can understand.  And the capacity building was very good.  The Africa school on internet governance and thanks to Arrieta and her team APC and PRIDA for bringing participants to the school from all over Africa, except those that were not able to make it was an opportunity for everybody to be there and most African countries were there to be trained and to build their capacity.

So that look at the session we want to see continue in 20 and also for you to be part of global IGF.  It was not only that we are doing physical meeting, there was remote participation and which created opportunity for those that are not present to be able to connect with us and be able to share what we are doing there.

We saw more sponsors in the 2019 Africa IGF and we are hoping that more would join to sponsor us.  We want to see the business sector be more active and we want to see more of you at the Africa IGF.  And then businesses in effect to be able to sponsor the African IGF and when we have more sponsorship we have more people participating and we have the dialogue with all and we share our common goal and we take a common position that we will bring to the global IGF.

So the shortfall or the flip side is communication was a problem.  So it made me think of what do we do to bridge the communication gap?  Hats off when we get back to our countries we should make two languages or three languages in Africa to be come pulse sorry.  I'm not sure my friends from the French speaking understand what I am saying.  It is a challenge for us.  I'm happy that AU has taken it upon themselves that this he would have interpretation by next time we are in search forum.

I want to welcome all of you and tell you that 2020 we will call upon you to be part of 2020 Africa IGF.  And the country will soon be announced and the date also.

So I leave that to Makane to continue from there.  Thank you.

>> MODERATOR: Thank you so much, Mary.  And now I give the floor to Makane Faye to talk about the way forward.

>> MAKANE FAYE: Thank you.  Thank you for coming to this our forum.  I will move at the hosting issue.

You know, the Africa IGF takes place every year end of June and end of November for three days in African country.  The process to host is a bid prepared in English, French and Portugese and put on the African IGF website.

Sent to all stakeholders also by e-mail.  And criteria are put on the bid.  And any country meeting the criteria, they can bid for hosting.

And the bid is September by an African government or an African government institution, submitted to the AU Commission.  Bid is not yet sent but we have some countries which have vied to host for the next African IGF in 2020.  The bids will be sent out early January.  And when the bid is accepted, the criteria accepted, then MOU will be signed between the African Union Commission and the host country.

As was stated earlier by Mary and Adil, the bar is set very high by Chad and we hope that the next host will follow suit or else we will go back to Chad.  Thank you.


>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much, Makane for the statement.  Now we move to the initiative data I spoke about at the beginning, the policy integration initiative for Africa.  At the AU leadership it was felt that Africa participation in the global debate is -- IG debates is low and something has to be done.

So, we thought about PRIDA.  And as you can see the local there, European union commission is assisting with PRIDA on supporting the PRIDA for which we are very thankful.  But PRIDA basically has two tracts.  We are building capacity for Africans, all of the stakeholders in Africa.  We are also making sure that countries who don't have IGF we are enabling and promoting IGF at the national level.  I give the floor to my colleague, Dr. Margaret Nyambura to walk us through the PRIDA initiative.

>> MARGARET NYAMBURA: Thank you, Adil.  PRIDA is a policy issue for of a.

It is initiative.  Let's go to the next slide.  It is an initiative of the African Union and the European union and national telecommunication union that has three main tracks or three main object eastboundives.  The first to adjust various dimension of broadband supply in Africa.  And (?) legal and regulatory frameworks and the third track is lining the structure and governments and building the African member steps in the IG space.

To the next slide, please. I will still continue.  PRIDA has two tracks as has been said.  The first one being to strengthen the IG structures and processes at the national, regional and continental level.  We are streamlining the policy development process at all these Levels.  We are coordinating African's participation in IG matters at the global level.  The second main track is to build capacity and develop -- build and develop capacity and offer coaching services to the internet community and diplomats of member states.  And in this what we are doing is to strengthen the ability of African stakeholders to actively participate in the global internet governance practices that is both policy and technical debates andto develop negotiations of the state members before incuring international meetings where positions are taken.

where decisions are taken.

The next slide with the actors and work flows.  Go to the other slide.  We have the African Union Commission and at the national level we are working with the PRIDA.  And we are working with the national governance.  At the regional level, we are working with the regional economic communities and regional conveners.  And then we have the continental Africa IGF that is whose Secretaria informs the global process is.  We are weeing to streamline from the national to the regional and continental and then inform the Goebel processes.

So what has PRIDA done so far?  At the beginning of the year, the work commissioned between API and July and the studies looked at challenges of active participation by the Africans in the global IG decision-making processes.  So that is we are a bit behind this that.  That is what I discussed below before.  The various actors that we are working with.

So what we have done so far is that we have done three studies that between April and July and the focus was to understand the challenges, why are we not in the global processes both at the policy level and the technical level.  And we also developed an IGF toolkit available in both French and English to help at the national, the regal -- both national and regional and continental level the Proehl process of implementing IGF.  And we developed the implication strategy.  And the governance implementation strategy which we are discussing now but should be finalized soon.  And the harmmyization of national, regional and continental IGFs.  What we have done is the IGF toolkit should be able to streamline the processes in all 55 countries and to be used for those countries that do not have an IGF.  At the moment, we have 29 countries with IGF.  So from the 55, we are still 20 plus countries we need to focus on.  We want to rationalize scheduling of IGF and internet governance from 2020 to ensure all of the national IGFs are held between January and June of each year starting from next year.  Again, we want to ensure that regional IGFsare held between July and September and to ensure that the continental IGF is held in October.

PRIDA is offering support for the regional internet governance schools and regional Googles.  We did this already.  And capacity building and development.  We have already developed Lu modules training modules on internet governance and assisted and tested.  And we have trained 70 regional trainers that we are using at the regional level to ensure that we expand the numbers and build capacities at the national and regional level.  This collaboration with DIPLO we are contextualizing the content for African internet so make sure will we are thinking global we are making sense of the challenges at the country level so we harmony size that and move hand in hand.

What are the next steps for PRIDA?  Final ice the IGF implement strategy.  Working on a study of sustainability of internet governance trainings with the DIPLO foundation.  And support and creation of national IGFs with where they do not exist and continue to support regional and continental IGFs j developing contextualized online and offline training modules for the internet community.  This will be available in both French and English.

Developing contextualized online and offline training models for dill plow mappity with embedded certification both in English and French.  Working on a digital platform hosted by the African Union Commission and developing a framework for digital policy clinic for on demand coaching.  On both technical and policy issues.  And finally, fostering communities of practice around internet Giancarlo composed of researchers, practitioners and policy makers.  That.  And that is about PRIDA.  Thank you.


>> MODERATOR: Thank you so much, Dr. Margaret Nyambura.  The key take away that is a PRIDA strategy, we ask you to be all involved in the implementation of the strategy.  I think the aim is to make sure that Africa participates in the global debate with one voice.  I think the idea we wanted to make sure that at the country level we have a coherent policy development process and then move up to the regions and at the continental level so when we reach to the African IGF we will have one voice or at least a common position on various issues in the IGF space.

This is something that we -- I think we all aspire to have achieving.  And I think it is very important at the national level to have a coherent policy development process and at the continental level have a common position when we come to different debates pertaining to IG.

I think we have 20 minutes.  We are going to open the floor for Q&A.  I think this is one of the thing just reminding the next MAG chair that we needed more time for our session.  And I cannot stress enough the interpretation.  I think I start here and then this gentleman.  Please introduce yourself.  And then briefly the question because we need to have more people participating.

>> AUDIENCE: (Speaking non-English language).

>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much.

>> AUDIENCE: Thank you very much for very good moderation and I take this early opportunity to also thank the presenters for some very wonderful presentations on Internet Governance Forum in Africa.  On the subject of the day even as the command the good time out here today of Africans in the room I would like to remind us of the important role that legislation has to play in those that are not only internet friendly but leaving in a better space that is stiffer and more moderated content.

We have a good delegation from Kenya and I take the opportunity to report some few things Kenya has been able to do.  Kenya parliament has been able to pass four pieces of legislation in the last two years.

And these pieces of legislation range from a number of issues that have to do with internet governance.  We have been able to pass the Kenya debtor protection act.  And able to amend the Kenya Information and Communication Act.  We have been able to pass the Kenya Corporate Act and we have been able to pass a ground-breaking law in Africa, the computer miss use and cybercrime bill which offers a safer space on the internet.

A good issue also that was raised about the language that Africa internet will be speaking.  And I would like to remind us about the words that were spoken by a great African leader who told us that if you speak to me if English or French or Arabic, you are speaking to my mind.  But if you speak to me in my native vernacular language you are speaking to my heart and that is why I'm excited about what is happening in Kenya when I see that I can go on Google and do an entire search and browsing and surfing in Swahili because then we are taking the internet right to the people who need to use it into the future.

Finally, I would like to just recognize members of parliament in the room from Kenya.  We have right there honorable Antonio Loich.  A member of parliament from the city.  We have the honorable James Makhakur Arkansas from the better con at this time wentcy and sitting right next to me is honorable major Bashir who was a former soldier and our big advocate of internet governance.  And we have got staffers and members of public from Kenya.  I would just like to recognize that they are in the room.  People from Kenya, kindly stand up.  Kenya is decidedly, Kenya is decidedly wanting to lead the way in internet governance and we like what you say about Internet Governance Forumsat national levels.  Thank you very much.

>> MODERATOR: Thank you.  Thank you very much.  Please next time introduce yourself before you make the comment or ask questions.  I think you bring a very good point.  I would like.

>> AUDIENCE: Can I introduce myself.  Thank you, Mr. Moderators.  I'm sorry for that.  Honorable John KjCariat.  A member of parliament and sit on the committee of examination, communication and innovation in the Kenya parliament.

>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much your excellency.  Thank you very much.  And I think this is exactly why we need -- we want and need IGFsat the national level.  We need to be able to link the debate during the IGFsto ongoing processes at the national level.  So that you have direct impact on the processes and somehow the voice that formed within the multistakeholder discussion is heard when you do the legislation and so forth.  I live the floor to our friend here at the CEO and then the lady, the COO and then the lady here.  And I think there is some people at the back.  I think let's also take some.  Yes.  And then here.  Okay.  So one -- one, two, three.  And then -- three and four at the back.  And then we get some question from remote.

>> AUDIENCE: Thank you, Adil and Makane.  I think at this AU open forum it is only appropriate that we give feedback to you on the progress of the one of the tasks of the project that we are undertaking on behalf of the African Union.

So my colleague honorable KJ introduce the honorable members from the parliament of Kenya I would like to recognize my honorable deputy minister from south Africa.  Mr. Canna.  I would like to give you feedback on the Africa domain name where we stand today.

In terms of history in 2012 we were appointed to administrate the Africa.domain name.  We signed an agreement with ICANN for the same.  The litigation which cost us close to3 million U.S. dollars and in 2017 we commenced the delegation of dot-Africa.  In 2018 there was a dot-Africa foundation established with a key mandate of addressing issues of local content, development of registrars across the continent and development of CCTIDs and the pan African ICT program.  All of the when you a choir a dot-Africa domain name the funds go towards the implementation of that.  019 the litigation is over.  We prevailed.  Dot-Africa is now an African project and belongs to all of us and I hope nothing will deter us going forward.

Next steps is to launch the foundation.  We oar looking to do that in DC Congo in 2020 during the AIF, the African internet summit and we will continue creating in line with the OR, the Abuja and declarations and now working for the release of Africa prosecutor ICANN so the African community can have their own domain name under AU Detective Africa away from AU.INT.  We are only happy this will be realized next year.  And for now, I want to implore each request Africa community to now register for your domain name under dot-Africa.  Make your presence in this digital space of Africa and acquire a beautiful name under dot-Africa.  I thank you.


>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much.  It is a no brainer we need to have your own identity in this space and dot-Africa is the perfect example for the entity.  I give this floor to the lady here.

>> AUDIENCE: Good afternoon.  My name is Linda Logono.  From come from Kenya from the lawyer's hub.  A policy innovation hub for lawyers the first in Africa.  Two comments.  One is a question.

Is IGF open to collaborate with private sector efforts to bridge the policy and bridge a gap?  I ask that because we are putting together a Africa law tech festival to bridge the gap between Africa and technology.  We DORELLing this march 6-11 and I would be open to here if we could collaborate on running the net governance classes and working tooth with afri labs on this.  I would like to defer mentioned as we are getting the regulation sector and indicate that it is not proper to continue to stifle the internet of Kenya.  Let the introduce requiring bloggers to register and even the punitive regulations you are bringing across on drones.  Delivering medicines on drones already.  I think it is important that ministers walk the talk and even as they report that they say the truth on the ground.

I think we can do better.  Kenya as a country and we enable people to innovate.  We introduced 16% taxation.  The same as for brick and mortar companies.

Think you need to walk the talk.

>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much.

>> AUDIENCE: Thank you.  I'm Dorie gooden, the chair of the mental council for UNESCO information for all program.  I think that what we have heard today is really inspiring.  I just want to remind everyone here that you have representation at UNESCO where many important issues are also being decided.  And that it would be very important for civil society, private sector as well as those government organizations -- representatives that are here to make sure that your ambassadors at that level are briefed.  The question I actually wanted to ask is in listening to the presentation of the PRIDA, it was not clear to me how you address the very concerning issue of the gender and representation of women whereas Chad was very impressive, we see that the numbers of women represented were very low.  So it is clear that we need some special support to ensure that we build up the numbers of women.  Could you just clarify a bit more on what is being done?

>> MODERATOR: Thank you.  Two questions at the back.  And then we will take question from the online.

>> AUDIENCE: Hello.  Good afternoon.  Africans and friends of Africa.  I'm Keith Andare from Kenya.  And we youth representative of the African IGF-MAG.  I do not want to water down what my colleagues have said as far as the African youth internet governance is concerned.  Africa's youth and we with make more interinvestigations a congresses as far as IGF is concerned if we support young people at the national levels.  Calling upon everyone in the room, conveners of national IGF to support youth initiatives at national level so we can have meaningful conversation at global level and regional level.  Thank you so much.


>> MODERATOR: I don't know if you have questions from the remote participation.  Who is -- do we have any question from the remote participation?  I think before we proceed there were a couple of questions that were asked regarding private sector participation in the IGF space, yes, definitely.  And I think we need to go beyond the classical stakeholder group and do mapping based on issues.  Whatever issues that you are discussing and you want to debate on, you do mapping and see who has more stake in that process.  And then you invite them.

I'm pretty sure they are going to capture people who really have a lot of stake in the process and who are really interested in the subjects.

>>   So if you are doing something pertaining to private sector definitely they will be one of the key stakeholder presented.

The question in regard to gender, I think we are trying, but this is an invitation to everybody to give us ideas.  But what we are trying to do when we organize meeting, workshops and so forth, we are always mindful of gender representation in our meeting, trainings and so forth.

Oftentimes we are faced with new application from the -- from women -- with no application from women and then find ourself in the dilemma where for instance you open an application and then you get only 10% women responding.  In which case then you are -- we recognize the issue and we are open to ideas and thoughts so that we can improve on that aspect.

I think the honorable Mr.-- if you want to have a statement?  You are okay.  Let me give the floor to the deputy minister from south Africa.

>> AUDIENCE: Thank you very much.  And I think I want to really appreciate this opportunity and congratulate the initiative, especially to make sure that Africa as a continent is not left behind in the internet governance space.  Two things I want to propose, chair.  We had the African vision in south Africa and the SG is from Kenya, one of the things he did for attendance at the conference was to say every country that want to participate at least one delegation must be a woman.  Once we start to do that we create an opportunity for women to be part of this kind of conferences, exposure but also deliberately wanting them to be active participants.

So one think Africa has the youth DVD but the whole continent we add a majority to let's walk the talk along those lines.

The issue today is that we have the pan-African parliament.  Now, PRIDA, it is a brainchild of the AU commission and all that we are doing the support by the AU commission.  Harmmyization of policies and ledge Salt Lake City.  Let's also use the platform for us to synergy because there are areas of mutual interest especially countries that are along the coastline where we need to synergy some of the things that we want to do.  So let's also use the pan African parliament to (?) some of the policies because we are not starting from scratch.  They are codes of good practices from other countries.  Thank you very much.


>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much your excellency.  Points well taken.  Let's take a question from this side.  My friend.  And I think unfortunately, we are running out of time.  We are almost -- the time is up.  But let's take these two questions and we can conclude.

>> Go ahead, please.

>> Thank you, Adil.  My name is Judy from Kenya.  Thank you for the presentations.

My question regards persons with disability.  I would really like to see or rather to hear what the Africa IGF intends to do regarding persons with disabilities.  The Africa IGF website cannot be read by a screen reader as it is.  I would like to know the way forward on that, thank you.

>> AUDIENCE: Thank you, Adil.  And I want to congratulation you on the team working on the beta for achieving this milestone in the project.  My name is Hasham.  With the NTRA.  The national telecomregulater of Egypt.

And also part of the PRIDA IG across the continent.

I want to just take a moment, of course, to congratulation on the other side of the table for her appointment as the new MAG chair.  Congratulations.  This is -- this is an important moment for Africa and I want to link this also to the efforts for the beta.

At the moment, we are -- as a continent, I would say we are very lucky to have a presentation at the highest level in terms of the IGF-MAG at the global IGF and we have also two representatives at the ICANN GAC, the governmental advisory group (?) as chair and vice chair respective Ily.  I was wondering if maybe in the next stages of PRIDA program we can put more focus also on organizations like GAC and ICANN and how we can assist representatives from across Africa.

And I want to also capitalize on at the presence of high level dignitaries from different countries across the continent to perhaps shape a message on the open forum to make the resource available for Africa to participate in the forums.  A number of things at IGF or ICANN we cannot miss out on.  This morning it was the consultation on the digital cooperation that was launched by the UN Secretary General and there is a lot for the African countries to comment on and engage on.  I was hoping that maybe Adil we could interCuse a component on the two regarding ICANN GAC and digital cooperation as well in the next stages.  Thank you.

>> MODERATOR: Thank you.  A point well taken.  Judith, I think we want to solicit your help.  And I think you will be a very good candidate to give us insight and ideas on the subject so that we can improve the situation in the African IGF environment.  Okay.

So I think finally, I give the floor, I think we have a request here on this side.  I give the floor and the debate is interesting and we are just getting started, but unfortunately time is not on our side.  I think this will be the last comment.  And then we will close after that.

>> AUDIENCE: Thank you very much.  I'm (?) the IGF coordinator for Gana national IGF and the PRIDA focal point.  This year, Ghana had the maiden youth IGF in Ghana and as part of the national IGF we talked about a lot of the very relevant issues.

But before I continue I want to also make you aware that we have a great delegation from Ghana including two women.  Could you please stand up and get a hand clap.


>> AUDIENCE: So there is a lot going on.  There is a lot going on in Ghana in terms of inclusion in Ghana right now.  We have the universal access fund which has digital literacy training going on.  There is a rule out telephony spread the internet in the remote area and our minister in particular is very, very keen to include women.  So we actually are doing the miss Ghana contest which is going to tie into the Ms. Geek Africa to tie in the IGF because we believe the more women in IT the more that will be represented at an IGF level.

So I just wanted you to be aware of that.  And thank you very much.


>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much.  I think we are way pastime but I will give the floor to this lady briefly and then a couple of announcements, people want to invite people for events.  It is going to be done by Hosam.  And then somebody from that side also want to make announcement.  Briefly, please.  Very briefly.

>> AUDIENCE: Thank you, chair.  For recognizing.  I'm Doreen from the south Africa domain name authority.  I would like to recognize the south African delegation which is the deputy minister (?) as well.  South Africa recently had the first national internet governance in October and for the first time ever we have the first of the school of internet governance and had a turnout of about 50 students and it was bearing the multistakeholder model we had representation from all sectors as well.

And another thing that the south African government in terms of internet governance that has pushed thus far is to put through the cyber crimes bill to parliament for deliberation and we also have the prevention and combating of hate speech that is for deliberation in parliament and the papaya act as well and the report of fourth industrial revolution as it is it is in full swing right now and next year the second phase of the school of internet governance seeing that the first pilot was successfully carry and we do appreciate what the Africa school of internet governance is doing because we have taken the model from them.  Thank you.

>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much.

>> AUDIENCE: Quarterbackly, thank you very much.  My name is ha psalm, the chairman of the African ICT alliance.  Which gather members AMEs and companies private sector from 30 countries in Africa.  Just to announce we are organizing a session, a workshop for Africa and developing countries in the digital inclusion theme on Thursday, 4:40 to 6:00 p.m. along the Poe -- unlocking the potential of.  There are challenges we want to discuss for the developing countries and we invite you all to be there with us.  Thank you very much.

>> MODERATOR: Thank you.

>> AUDIENCE: I'm from south Africa.  I work for Google.  Just a short one to announce we will be having a reception at 5:30 and everyone is invited.  A glory reception inviting African delegation and Latin America.  It will be outside the UN zone by the Foyer.  Please make your way there.  Thank you so much.

>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much.  I think one final note.

>> AUDIENCE: Yes.  So one final comment from me.  The Ghana delegation is very, very honored to have among us a very active member of parliament doing a great job and ensuring a great internet in Ghana.  And if you don't mind I would like you to acknowledge the presence of honorable sam George member of the select committee on communication in the parliament of Ghana.

>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much.  I think with that we come to the conclusion of this session.  We thank you very much for staying here all the time.  And we appreciate and hopefully the next ones we are going to have more time and interpretation.  I thank you again.  And I wish you very good meetings here during IGF.  Thank you very much.


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